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Yak
Posted 2006-09-09 1:54 PM (#240745)
Subject: My first guitar.... My first post...


Joined:
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Posts: 347

Location: Reno, NV
Hello all...

This is my first post, so I thought I'd use it to tell you all how much I like my first guitar.

I bought a 1771LX CCB Balladeer a week ago at Guitar Center. I was looking at the Martin's and Taylor's, Breedlove's and Takamine's. I was about 2 seconds away from saying yes to a Taylor 110 or Martin DCX1E, when suddenly I spotted this beautiful cherry burst 1771-LX sitting in the corner of the room. After a quick review the deal was sealed. I was going home as an Ovation owner. The thing I love most about this guitar is how comfortable it sits against the body with the round bowl. The standard guitars, especially in dreadnought size are a real pain the ribs for me, at a smallish 5'7". I went back and bought a Crate CA30DG Acoustic amp for it and the guitar just sings now. This is definitely one of my favorite purchases in a long time.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

So this brings me to my first question...

When plugged in, is it typically better to have the gain on the guitar high and the gain on the amp low?....or.... The gain on the guitar lower and the gain on the amp higher. Is one way a "no-no" ??
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Arnaud
Posted 2006-09-09 2:01 PM (#240746 - in reply to #240745)
Subject: Re: My first guitar.... My first post...



Joined:
March 2006
Posts: 269

Location: Nîmes, south of France
Hello Yak,
Welcome on board and congrats for the purchase of the 1771.
On my O's, i alway set high on the guitar and low on the amp :)
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alpep
Posted 2006-09-09 2:02 PM (#240747 - in reply to #240745)
Subject: Re: My first guitar.... My first post...


Joined:
December 2001
Posts: 10583

Location: NJ
Originally posted by Yak:
Hello all...


When plugged in, is it typically better to have the gain on the guitar high and the gain on the amp low?....or.... The gain on the guitar lower and the gain on the amp higher. Is one way a "no-no" ??
depends on if you want to overdrive the amp.

welcome you picked a nice guitar
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bobc
Posted 2006-09-09 2:34 PM (#240748 - in reply to #240745)
Subject: Re: My first guitar.... My first post...


Joined:
August 2006
Posts: 55

Location: Pennsylvania
Welcom, and congratulations on your new guitar.

What i ussually do is keep my guitar set about mid way. Then i set my PA (in your case amp) where i wan't it. This way i can make slight adjustments one way or the other at the guitar.

Keep in mind that you don't want to set the amp close to clipping, or you may clip by up-ing the guitar gain.

I could be doing it all wrong though, but thats just what i do... :)
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JeffreyD
Posted 2006-09-09 2:53 PM (#240749 - in reply to #240745)
Subject: Re: My first guitar.... My first post...


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Posts: 777

Location: East Wenatchee, WA
Strictly from an "audio engineering" point of view, you want as much clean signal from the sourse as is possible, then your gain knobs on the channel set at "unity" ( the point of best signal to noise I believe. It is not always marked, but about 3/4 of the way is going to be close) then the master or amplifier volume setting the actual loudness.

This produces the highest potential output with the lowest noise (hiss or hum).

I normally run my acoustic/electrics about 3/4 of the way up, as I like to retain a bit of throttle for changes in dynamics.

On the other hand, I run my electric at nearly full throttle, as I want the hottest signal going into my other gear.

Just preferences and based on some reading but I am not an expert by any sense.
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fillhixx
Posted 2006-09-09 2:57 PM (#240750 - in reply to #240745)
Subject: Re: My first guitar.... My first post...



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Posts: 4833

Location: Campbell River, British Columbia
As a former sound guy, I would try to get all the players to set their instruments at 80% max volume then mix them. Then they couldn't 'take over' the mix by cranking themselves up all night as their friends tell them "I can't hear you in the mix, man!"

All lead players should come complete with a shoulder mount for their monitor amp so no one else in the band has to go deaf to satisfy their ego.
................................
Oh, sorry, that wasn't the question was it? My bad. Ranting.

MO: guitar at 80% then set the amp as you like it. Later, when you crank for 'just a bit more' you're less likely to deal with feedback. YMMV.
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2006-09-09 3:07 PM (#240751 - in reply to #240745)
Subject: Re: My first guitar.... My first post...


Joined:
January 2006
Posts: 1487

Location: Michigan
Oh Boy do I remember my first girlfriend , she had the fattest ass on the planet & the softest lips ,,, Uh-Oh Wrong Bulletin board
"""SORRY""""
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2006-09-10 7:31 AM (#240752 - in reply to #240745)
Subject: Re: My first guitar.... My first post...



Joined:
February 2002
Posts: 1817

Location: Minden, Nebraska
Welcome to the club, enjoy your new guitar, and heed the good counsel given above. After you decide which is good.... :D
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GregoryS.
Posted 2006-09-10 8:56 AM (#240753 - in reply to #240745)
Subject: Re: My first guitar.... My first post...
Joined:
April 2005
Posts: 331

Location: San Angelo, Texas
Hi GWB (will I get in trouble for those initials, I was talking about guitarwannabee...)

I KNOW that girl!!!

Congrats on your purchase Yak. That is a GREAT guitar you got...but you already know that :)

As for sound, I set at 75% or so on the guitar, then adjust at the amp or sound board....that way I have something left if I need to quick adjust during a song or set...YMMV,PCDFPD,PDR,DDAD,TYFYS.
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Beal
Posted 2006-09-10 9:11 AM (#240754 - in reply to #240745)
Subject: Re: My first guitar.... My first post...



Joined:
January 2002
Posts: 14127

Location: 6 String Ranch
Welcome. Keep both about in the middle. Then you can crank up the guitar if needed. Just a point of view, all the above info is good too. Play with it and you decide.
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-09-10 9:18 AM (#240755 - in reply to #240745)
Subject: Re: My first guitar.... My first post...
Joined:
February 2004
Posts: 2487

Nice Guitar, Love the story about the comparisons.
As for settings I say set your guitar at 20% and drive the soundman crazy as you keep turning it up all night!

Randy
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