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nourie
Posted 2006-09-07 10:45 AM (#241188)
Subject: Viper EA63


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does anybody have any input on the viper EA63 nylon string as far as sound and quality? Does it come close to the 1773LX?
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Waskel
Posted 2006-09-07 10:48 AM (#241189 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63



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Totally different aminals.
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edensharvest
Posted 2006-09-07 11:02 AM (#241190 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63


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Check with Arnaud...he has one. I know that you don't want one for it's unplugged sound, but it makes a great stage guitar.
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Arnaud
Posted 2006-09-07 11:03 AM (#241191 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63



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I have one, however no 1773LX for comparison.
Please see the topic "Nylon string tension" by 9000 some days ago, there are some additionnal informations.
From what i know, i can say the same than Waskel: totally different guitars
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-09-07 11:08 AM (#241192 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63


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I've used an EA63 as my main stage guitar for nearly 2 years. It's done 2 UK tours and a ton of local gigs. In terms of build quality it's as good as any other USA Ovation. Tonally it gives you a feedback free extremely convincing nylon string sound. Probably not quite as natural sounding as the 1773LX, but in a gig situation it hardly matters, unless you play solo.

Only downside is that I've been playing it so much and got used to the lower tension that when I go back to steel strings it feels like hard work by comparison.

If you need a nylon string guitar for live work either will do. If you play loud go for the Viper. If you want something that can be miked as well as plugged in, or you play a lot acoustically the Viper is the wrong guitar.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-09-07 11:09 AM (#241193 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63


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Plugged in, I don't know what the sound difference would be, but one's a solid body (chambered, solid body) nylon string, the other's an acoustic nylon string. You really can't compare them.
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nourie
Posted 2006-09-07 11:14 AM (#241194 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63


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Thanks for all your responses, this site is great! Let me explain the question a little better, I am a newbie to the guitar world and I have a 35th anniversery steel string that is tearing up my fingers but i love the sound, Iwas looking for a nylon string so I can practice longer, but looking for a quality sound, Again thank you for all your quick responses.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-09-07 11:18 AM (#241195 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63


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Go for 1773LX or any other model with a full acoustic body. The Viper is something of a one-trick pony. It's a hell of a good trick though.

As for your 35th Anniversary, try a pro set-up and some lighter strings, maybe try going to silk and steel.
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alpep
Posted 2006-09-07 11:20 AM (#241196 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63


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I have one.
I bought it after I sold the one I had to temp. I missed it, catch me in a weak moment and I may sell you this one. I have an old guild classical and I rarely play classical to warrant owning several. although I thought this time I would keep the ea 63 since it has the best of both worlds.
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nourie
Posted 2006-09-07 11:24 AM (#241197 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63


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Hey alpep, How weak are you feeling right now?
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Arnaud
Posted 2006-09-07 11:31 AM (#241198 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63



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Nourie,
Regardless all technical points we gave you, the best thing to do is taking both in hands, playing them and make your own opinion. I love the EA63 and knew what its characteristics were when i bought it. For your application, as i understand, i think the 1773LX would be the one to consider.
You can see some pics of the Viper in the gallery, click Arnaud and get the Viper Album.
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alpep
Posted 2006-09-07 11:32 AM (#241199 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63


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hmmmmm......

how deep are your pockets right now......


LOL e me if serious.
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nourie
Posted 2006-09-07 11:32 AM (#241200 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63


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Paul, When you say " Pro set up" what does that mean? Again I am new to the guitar world.
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nourie
Posted 2006-09-07 11:39 AM (#241201 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63


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I think your right Arnaud, By the way that is a beautiful guitar but I think I am leaning toward the 1773LX I rarely plug in so I think I would be wasting what the Vpier was made for "looking bad ass and playing loud"
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nourie
Posted 2006-09-07 11:48 AM (#241202 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63


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Ok, So who has a 1773LX that needs to make rent and has to sell!
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-09-07 12:56 PM (#241203 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63


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Originally posted by nourie:
Paul, When you say " Pro set up" what does that mean? Again I am new to the guitar world.
It means have a professional luthier or guitar tech, or at least someone with some experience adjust the guitar. Tell them how you want it to feel and respond, or what you don't like about your current set-up, and let them see your playing style.(People who dig in and play hard generally need more neck releif and a higher action to avoid fret rattle) They should then be able to suggest an appropriate string guage and adjust the nut, saddle and neck relief so the guitar plays and feels they way you want without tearing up your fingers.
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nourie
Posted 2006-09-07 12:59 PM (#241204 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63


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Thanks Paul, All of you have been very helpful. I really appreciate the tips.
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alpep
Posted 2006-09-07 1:18 PM (#241205 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63


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I have a 6773 I can make you a deal on if you are interested.
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noah
Posted 2006-09-08 3:50 AM (#241206 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63



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Originally posted by Arnaud:
Regardless all technical points we gave you, the best thing to do is taking both in hands, playing them and make your own opinion.
If you plan on getting down our way, I have an EA63 and 1773LX which just came back with upgrades from the Mothership.

Maybe Fred would want to ride with me and meet you part way.
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-09-08 3:58 AM (#241207 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63


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I love guitars and central coast wines... Let's go!!
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Arnaud
Posted 2006-09-08 7:14 AM (#241208 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63



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Originally posted by noah:
Originally posted by Arnaud:
Regardless all technical points we gave you, the best thing to do is taking both in hands, playing them and make your own opinion.
If you plan on getting down our way, I have an EA63 and 1773LX which just came back with upgrades from the Mothership.

Maybe Fred would want to ride with me and meet you part way.
Noah, what upgrade did you apply to the EA63?
Ah i hope having one day the opportunity to fly to the US..... ;)
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noah
Posted 2006-09-08 7:42 AM (#241209 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63



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Arnaud, I am sorry. My sentence was misleading. Only the 1773LX was at the Mothership. It received ebony tuner buttons, side dots, and XLR. My EA63 stayed home. I was trying to tell nourie that both guitars were in reach if he wanted to try them out.

One day I hope to have the opportunity to fly to France... ;)
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Arnaud
Posted 2006-09-08 8:16 AM (#241210 - in reply to #241188)
Subject: Re: Viper EA63



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Thanks Noah!
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