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duffer
Posted 2006-01-09 5:27 AM (#269874)
Subject: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect


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I have searched within a 200 mile area looking for ANY of the Adamas carbon top guitars without any luck! I live 200 miles SW of Chicago. Where do I find one to try?

I really like the looks of the 2080, off-set sound hole reminds me of McPherson. How do they sound acoustically?

Double action truss rod and carbon top!, they should beat the hell out of Rainsong for playability but how about sound?
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alpep
Posted 2006-01-09 6:52 AM (#269875 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect


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well the 2080 is not yet available
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NY Norm
Posted 2006-01-10 6:52 PM (#269876 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect


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I saw the 2080 advertised on massmusic.net today. It quotes a price of @2,099.00, and includes a free 9158-0 case. Very interesting. Is this place on the level?
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alpep
Posted 2006-01-10 8:53 PM (#269877 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect


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I doubt if they have any in stock. but I may be wrong
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cliff
Posted 2006-01-10 9:35 PM (#269878 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect


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I wouldn't doubt if y'had to wait for them to order one. They probably got the press release, and figured they'd advertise 'em before they're available . . .

. . . but I may be wrong, as well.
(It's a JerseyThing)
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Englishplayer
Posted 2006-01-11 8:18 AM (#269879 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect


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I was saving upo for the 2080, but those prices are more than I'm willing to go. The 2006 collector $1999? the 2080, $2100? Wow those prices are rising and the competition starts to look more appealing.
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stephent28
Posted 2006-01-11 8:43 AM (#269880 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect



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Tell Al to grab you an FRG and then wait patiently for one to show up. Great savings and usually no signs of any defects.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-01-11 8:47 AM (#269881 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect



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Originally posted by Englishplayer:
I was saving upo for the 2080, but those prices are more than I'm willing to go. The 2006 collector $1999? the 2080, $2100? Wow those prices are rising and the competition starts to look more appealing.
I think anyone here who owns an Adamas in that range will tell you there is next to nothing in the competition that can touch these guitars at that price. I've played many $2k and $3k TayMarGibs that don't measure up to my 1581, the reissue of which sells for $2100. Adamas (Adamii?) and Ovations are incredible values for the price.
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MWoody
Posted 2006-01-11 9:12 AM (#269882 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect



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The only thing cheap these days is me!

The best thing about all the new units coming out of CT is that there will be more used deals available.

Buy American, buy used!
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dmkozak
Posted 2006-01-11 9:37 AM (#269883 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect


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Originally posted by Englishplayer:
I was saving upo for the 2080, but those prices are more than I'm willing to go. The 2006 collector $1999? the 2080, $2100? Wow those prices are rising and the competition starts to look more appealing.
The "competitions" prices are also rising. It will cost you more for a "basic" Guild D55 (no pickup or preamp) than anything you've mentioned. A comparable Taylor will be anywhere from $500 to $1500, and more likely the $1500 when comparing the Adamas acoutrements (how do I spell check?).

As Lee Iacocca says in the Chrysler commercials, if you can find a better guitar, but it!

That the things we want cost more than we want to spend is a problem all of us deal with. Economists will tell you this is an indication of faster inflation than the public is willing to put up with. And, realists will tell you to just accept it. Either way, that's life as we all know it.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-01-11 9:49 AM (#269884 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect



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Originally posted by dmkozak:
A comparable Taylor will be anywhere from $500 to $1500, and more likely the $1500 when comparing the Adamas acoutrements (how do I spell check?).
Sorry, I don't think you're going to find a Taylor comparable to the UT or even the 2080 for less than $2500.
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-01-11 10:04 AM (#269885 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect



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Well I know who to blame here. At the last tour one of US stood up...in front of Ovation sales, service, management and engineering.... and announced that Ovations are just to inexpensive. I won't name any names here. I will say that as a group, we were aPAULed and rather moody for the rest of the day. ;)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-01-11 10:22 AM (#269886 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect


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I don't think I said they were too inexpensive, but rather that they competed with guitars more expensive.

There's a tradeoff here in that if Ovations sell cheaply, they will be considered cheap guitars. If they sell for a price that actually puts them with the guitars with which they compete, we complain about them being too expensive.

We have become quite spoiled.....
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dmkozak
Posted 2006-01-11 2:12 PM (#269887 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect


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Originally posted by Waskel:
Originally posted by dmkozak:
A comparable Taylor will be anywhere from $500 to $1500, and more likely the $1500 when comparing the Adamas acoutrements (how do I spell check?).
Sorry, I don't think you're going to find a Taylor comparable to the UT or even the 2080 for less than $2500.
You caught my typo. I meant to type $500 to $1500 MORE. Relatively upper end Taylors sell for $2500 to $3000 and the top end Taylors sell for $4000.

Sorry, I forgot a very important word. Didn't mean to mislead anyone.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-01-11 2:31 PM (#269888 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect



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No problem, kozak, I thought you should know better than that! :rolleyes:

I don't think I said they were too inexpensive, but rather that they competed with guitars more expensive.
What I remember being said was that Ovation should charge more for thier guitars so they are taken seriously as competition.
Then... the crowded, noisy room got real quiet...
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-01-11 2:43 PM (#269889 - in reply to #269874)
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Okay...maybe I embellished just a bit.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-01-11 3:16 PM (#269890 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect


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Paul, I know how it feels to be misunderstood. Sometimes you mean to say one thing and the listeners here something entirely different. And silence is interpreted as agreement. No way to win.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-01-11 3:25 PM (#269891 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect


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"No way to win"

Kinda like being married.....
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Waskel
Posted 2006-01-11 3:35 PM (#269892 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect



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In this case the silence was a roomful of stunned OFC members trying to remember how to breath. A few recovered sooner than others, but we were able to restrain them before anyone was injured.
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cliff
Posted 2006-01-11 3:45 PM (#269893 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect


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The proverbial "Turd in the Punchbowl" . . .
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-01-11 3:55 PM (#269894 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect



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Waskel seems to have a clearer recollection of the event than I.
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cliff
Posted 2006-01-11 4:11 PM (#269895 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect


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You were too transfixed on the koa guitar . . . ;-)
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Waskel
Posted 2006-01-11 4:32 PM (#269896 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect



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Ah, Paul, my friend, I hope you know I'm just giving you a bad time. I knew what you were trying to say, as did most of us. We've all thought it, it just never occured to anyone else to say it in front of the Ovation management...
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dmkozak
Posted 2006-01-11 5:22 PM (#269897 - in reply to #269874)
Subject: Re: Where to find a 2080/ SMT/ CVT...ect


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Originally posted by Waskel:
No problem, kozak, I thought you should know better than that! :rolleyes:
You're absolutely right. I just can't figure out how my fingers can go so much faster than my brain when I type and so much slower when I play guitar!
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