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direstrats
Posted 2008-06-03 6:00 PM (#36518)
Subject: Op-Pro Battery Help !


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Hi

I have a question regarding the a Ovation 1771LX

When I got the guitar the battery was flat. I replaced the battery no problem and everything works fine,

When I play UNPLUGGED ,I notice that battery light comes on quickly when I move the guitar around sometimes.

Is this something I should worry about ?...could this be the cause why the original battery was flat ?

Is it the jack or the Pre-amp ?

Thanks
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-06-03 6:49 PM (#36519 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !


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Wow. 3 posts in 4 years. I should take a lesson. My 99 Collector's drains the battery when it is sitting. I've noticed a few times that the light will flash on while it is hanging on the wall. Yours may have the same issue, but I've never figured out the cause. I just take the battery out, since I rarely use the preamp anyway. I use it more for the tuner than anything and then just pop the battery back in.
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FlySig
Posted 2008-06-07 10:22 AM (#36520 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !



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The unit is designed to come on when plugged in. So it makes me wonder if there is a tab on the jack that needs to be bent a small amount. I'd take the hatch off the back of the bowl and look at the jack to see if anything looks like it could be shorting out.
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holLoWskull
Posted 2008-07-23 7:47 PM (#36521 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !


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I'm experiencing the same problem with my OP Pro. I can leave the guitar IN THE CASE UNPLUGGED and it will drain a fully charged 9V alkaline battery below 6V in a little over a week. I too am taking the battery out until using it, but this seems like a lousy solution to the problem. If this is normal of the OP Pro then I'd say there is a design flaw in the preamp itself. My OP-30 and OP-40 guitars would last for a few months on a 9V, whereas the OP Pro isn't even a fraction of that. Just wanted to see if there is a general consensus on if this is normal or not for an OP Pro before I contact Ovation customer service to have it fixed.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2008-07-23 8:00 PM (#36522 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !


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I have been having the same problem with a Morgan Monroe that I sold to one of my regular customers. I had him leave it here for a week (he said his battery goes dead in two or three days) and the battery was fine. Then he took it home and it happened again. I've told him to bring it back, but I really didn't know what else to check. Flysig, thanks for the idea of checking the jack. That's GOTTA be it.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-07-23 8:27 PM (#36523 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !



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One of my OP-Pro guitars... I believe it is the Flame T... sometimes eats batteries. I just pulled it out after a few weeks and the battery was fine.
I was thinking that the 'Tuner' button was getting pushed-in in the case, but I also was seeing the light glow when it was unplugged.

No answer to the problem... Just confirming that y'all ain't the only ones.

[I still like OP-30 better than OP-Pro... ;) ]
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wtw84
Posted 2008-07-31 2:54 PM (#36524 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !


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Hey my sons new 1778 LX is doing the same thing. We are on the third battery. The 1778 doesn't have an access hatch to open. Al and Ovation have been helping me figure out what's going on. I'm going to put the Op-Pro in another one of my O's and see what happens.
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wtw84
Posted 2008-07-31 3:08 PM (#36525 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !


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Let's make that my son's 2771 LX, that's why it doesn't have the access hatch because it's a contour bowl.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-07-31 3:53 PM (#36526 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !



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My batteries last many months, perhaps as much as a year or more without playing. Maybe its because I unplugged the clocks.
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JeffreyD
Posted 2008-07-31 6:43 PM (#36527 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !


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My 2080 Contour bowl does have a back cover, whereas my 2008C doesn't (just for the record).
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-07-31 7:03 PM (#36528 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !
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Feel free to disagree, but ...

You know, I hate to be critical. But being an ovation fan from 1969 onwards and an ovation player from 1971 onwards, I witnessed ovation absolutely RULE the acoustic plugged-in world.

Fast forward 35 years and what do you see? To me it looks like one huge cluster-fuck. XLR's that require a non-std cable, OP-pros that drain themselves, VIPs that require a dummy plug to even tune your guitar, etc, etc, ...

This is truely sad. The #1 reason why people have historically bought Ovations is probably the electronics. So where are we ...

Dave
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-07-31 7:10 PM (#36529 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !



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Originally posted by wtw84:
Let's make that my son's 2771 LX, that's why it doesn't have the access hatch because it's a contour bowl.
I believe that it doesn't have a manhole cover cuz it has a center-hole. That's all you need to get in.
Both of my contour bowls have hatches...

[I have no idea why the 2008 doesn't have a hatch]
[I also do not understand the dummy-plug thing... But they named it right :rolleyes: ]
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FlySig
Posted 2008-07-31 11:54 PM (#36530 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !



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My OpPro is still on the original battery from last November.

I'm still voting for a jack issue, since it will be a mechanical switch there. If it is working properly and nothing is plugged in, there should be no way for electrons to be moving.

Alternatively, maybe there is a problem with the tuner switch. That is the other mechanical switch that turns on part of the OpPro.

However, if that is the case, the tuner should light up. IIRC the little power LED flashes ever so briefly when the main power comes on when a plug is plugged into the jack. So, I'm back to the jack being at fault.

You could figure out which tab on the jack is responsible for connecting power and you could put a small bit of paper or scotch tape on it. If your battery no longer goes dead, that is where the problem is.
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First Alternate
Posted 2008-08-01 11:27 AM (#36531 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !
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Originally posted by FlySig:


I'm still voting for a jack issue,
I think you're right but I've pulled the jack in my Op-Pro/Studio equipped C2079LX. It's integrated with the XLR connector via some pc board that I don't want to mess with. So Ive taken to just popping the pre-amp out of the guitar when it's not plugged in. Not a fix, but a solution.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-08-02 9:19 AM (#36532 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !



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Originally posted by First Alternate:
... I've pulled the jack [/QB]
I'm very tempted, but I'll leave this line alone
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direstrats
Posted 2008-09-19 7:48 AM (#36533 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !


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Ok...I put a new battery in and everything was fine for 4 months. I pulled the guitar out of its case and the low battery light was flashing.

Any way I plugged the lead in and it was still flashing, removed the lead and it stopped. Plugged it in again and it started flashing. So , I figure it must be the input jack box. It is probably faulty, as the guitar was sitting in its case draining the battery....the jack allowed the pre amp to be on without a lead plugged in.

I rang the Ovation distributor here in Australia, and he said it will take quite a while to get any Ovation parts....Is it possible to get parts directly from Ovation or should I contact the Ebay dealer direct for a new input jack ???
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FlySig
Posted 2008-09-19 10:16 AM (#36534 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !



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Call or email customer support at the factory directly. Kim Keller or John Budny. I've lost their email due to a Windoze XP crash, so someone else will have to pm it to you.

Just a quick question though. Do you have the Op Pro or the Op Pro Studio with XLR output? My VIP preamp with XLR output will flash once in a while. Finally I figured out that it is when my hand passes over the XLR jack. Apparently something triggers the electronics to briefly, either static electricity or maybe a change in capacitance. I don't even have to touch the jack itself, just put my hand near it. So when attaching a strap or grabbing the guitar near the strap pin to move the guitar, the power led will flash briefly.
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direstrats
Posted 2008-09-19 3:46 PM (#36535 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !


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Hi

No XLR...

Does anyone has the email address for the mothership ???
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-09-20 5:51 AM (#36536 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !



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Originally posted by direstrats:
r here in Australia,
Hey Direstrats, can't help you with the problem (I'm sure someone has the info you're after), but where are you in Australia?
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Chuck (Retired Navy)
Posted 2008-09-20 6:55 PM (#36537 - in reply to #36518)
Subject: Re: Op-Pro Battery Help !


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Had the same problem with my Balladeer, turned out to be the input jack. Had to pull it out and bend the tab out slightly so it wouldn't keep the amp on all the time.
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