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| Just pulled my Adamas out of the case after not playing it for a few weeks and can see the fretboard has become unglued from the surface of the top. This causing all types of fret buzz and also I obviously don't want it to get any worse.
So thinking of repairs, would this be the type of repair and decent guitar luthor could do? Would there be any special glues or techniques to get this done?
As I live in Australia the cost would be too excessive to send it back to the factory for repairs as well so and help in how I could get this repaired locally would be greatly appreciated.   |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Yeah, if that's a U681 the fboard is supposed to be glued down. I'd stick some 2 part epoxy in there and clamp it.
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| Should I seperate it some more to really try a glue the whole area or just put in what I can?
Is this something ok to try at home or better to get a guitar guy to do? |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Hey Stark,
Where are you?
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Are you the original owner?
You might be able to get some warranty repairs done.
I'd check with the Mothership and see if there are any authorised repairers here in Oz
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| Located near Sydney. Unfortunately when buying from the US I was told you lose all warranty rights... thing was I couldn't buy anywhere in Australia. Adamas were also supposed to be pretty darn tough guitars, I guess that is a myth.
I will have to try and research whether there are any authorised repairers... still when I was buying a few years back the well was nearly completely dry with respect Ovation on Oz. |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | This is the adamas getting revenge for being ignored. |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Originally posted by Richard P.:
This is the adamas getting revenge for being ignored. Could be, must be female :D
If you bought it new in the US the warranty would still apply, used no.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | It looks like it would be tough to get epoxy in there and I'd be afraid of breaking something or making it worse by trying to lift the fretboard. |
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Location: eastern shore Virginia .Walesoriginally | How about a syringe with some epoxy, mask of the rest of the area first.any cleanup use regular vinegar ,far les toxic than proprietry brands of clean up juices,difficulty is clamping the sucker,figure out a way to clamp it before you try the gluing part .Good luck |
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Location: Issaquah, WA | Man, I feel for you. And while Melfie has an interesting idea with the syringe, I've found it's not very practical since nobody ever shoots up anything around here. The problem is that with toothpicks, knife blades, putty knives, dental floss, whatever you can use to push glue up and in and all inside the seperated stuff, it can get messy. Don't use an epoxy that sets up really fast...make sure you have time to work it, get your surfaces covered, clamped just the way you want, and cleaned up. Especially cleaned up.
if you haven't used the glue you're contemplating before, practice before putting it anywhere near your beautiful guitar! Glue together, say, the veneer that's seperating from the dining room table or the old wooden chair that's gotten all wobbly and squeaky.
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Location: Brisbane Australia | If I were you I would have a professional do it.
I'm pretty handy but I wouldn't contemplate touching it if it were mine.
An old Balladeer maybe.
There must be some good luthiers around Sydney.
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Location: Sydney, Australia | I'd second AJ's post. Also, I may be misinterpreting the physics of the whole thing, but it seems to me the string pressure pulling from the nut should be cantilevering the fretboard onto the face of the guitar (where the neck meets the body should be a pivot point).
This makes me wonder whether there isn't something else going on, not just the fretboard coming loose from the face - what has pulled it away? I'd want to get one of those little extendable dentist type mirrors and put it through the sound hole and have a look at the underneath of the face: Has the bracing broken? |
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Location: France | Hum...Quite strange, I'm not sure the fret board is glued to the sound board on all its area. Try to get the factory advise before trying something. I think they should provide you a very good support. |
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Location: Warren,Pa. | EXACTLY! Don't make a move based on what we say. That's too valuable a guitar. Email Kim at the service dept. and get some help from the source.
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| Will do... thanks for the contact info. Will see what they say and suggest. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Yeah, contact Kim. |
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Location: Las Vegas, NV | I thought I read (on this board somewhere) that, if you buy in the US, you don't lose US warranty rights, you would just have to pay to ship back to the US for service. Or if you bought in Australia, you must have your warranty work done there. You just can't "have your cake and eat it to," so to speak. |
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Location: Warren,Pa. | bcooombs,
Warranty rules are there to guard the manufacturer. Sometimes you find yourself in a "friendly" situation where good will overcomes the rules. It's been my experience as an OFC member that I receive huge amounts of favour when approaching the folks in this guitar company.
So while I don't expect the guys at Ovation to pay the shipping on a returned guitar and send another one out for free...I'll bet this can be "worked out" so Stark is glad he bought his Adamas.
How many of us have contacted John or Kim with our troubles and been OVERWHELMED with the response?
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Hi Stark, and welcome.
Are you the original owner? |
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| I am original owner, it was a guitar from Lost Art Vintage, because I wanted a textured top after reading all about them on this forum. Just a few years ago there was no easy way to get an Adamas in Australia, no real agents. Still very little presence in Australia except for the Celebrity models.
Well I have been given a contact address of a luthier in Sydney via Ovations local agent... so I will call them and try and get it fixed with them. Will report how I go, however I need to get the guitar to Sydney still to get to the luthier. |
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Location: Utah | Stark, have you contacted the factory? I would run it past them before having anybody do anything to it. Their local agent probably isn't nearly as knowledgeable as the factory. Kim Keller will give you the straight scoop on what kind of repair it needs. |
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Location: New Mexico | Hi
Just had this come up at on of my lessons. I had a slight buzz all the way down the frets... U681T. The owner of the Guitar Center tweeked it ever so slightly and retuned... Works great. Owners manual shows you how to adjust the neck whether it is bowed or warpeded neck... If you don't have the pages let me know. I know he didn't turn the truss rod 1/8 of a turn.
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Adamas fretboard seperating from top.
