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Location: Rochester, New York USA | Last spring I purchased a used, mint-condition, late-2008 Adamas 2080 NWT with VIP-5 Preamp. At that time, on the forum I asked about from what microphones these Images were rendered. I got some responses from folks that I felt didn't get to the point of what I was asking about, which was what brands and models of microphones were used in the studio to generate the Images. Being that my guitar was lacking the hangtag that would have stipulated what microphones the Images were rendered from, I recently sent an e-mail to Ovation regarding my question, and here is the response I received:
Adamas 2080 NWT VIP-5 Images:
1) Large diaphragm condensor Neumann U87 Contour cutaway Adamas natural woven "1180" top Teardrop - bass side only 2080
2) Small diaphragm condensor Schoeps CMC64 Contour cutaway Adamas natural woven "1180" top Teardrop - bass side only 2080
3) Large diaphragm condensor Neumann U87 Deep Non-cutaway Adamas natural woven "1180" top Multi Sound Hole, Elite style 1680
4) Dynamic Shure SM57 Deep Non-cutaway Adamas natural woven "1180" top Multi Sound Hole, Elite style 1680
5) Large diaphragm condensor Sound Deluxe E47 Deep Cutaway Uni-directional composite graphite Multi Sound Hole, Elite style - bass side only 1581
I'm thoroughly enjoying my Adamas 2080 NWT and thought I'd share my experience with those who too may be wondering what microphones their guitar's VIP-5 Preamp's Images are rendered from. In other words, contact askus@ovationguitars.com and they'll be very helpful with a quick response!
Regards,
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Location: Germany, where delicious wine is growing (Rheinh) | That's very interesting, thanks for posting!
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Say ST, where do you set your blend control? There was a discussion about this a few years ago when the VIP was first released, and it seemed most of us kept the imaging somewhere between 30% to 50%. As I recall, there also seemed to be a preference for one or two specific settings, possibly 4 or 5. |
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Location: Rochester, New York USA | Hi ProfessorBB,
I've found that generally I get the best sound by setting the blend control at 50% (the same with my Martin DCPA1 with F1 Aura). I like Images #1 & #5 the best. I think the best blend depends on the room you're playing in and how loud you have to be. Also, the best Images depend on whether you're flatpicking or fingerpicking. I'm flatpicking 95% of the time and find the two Images mentioned above work best for me.
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Location: Italia, Zianigo di Mirano (Venezia) | ...yes,the Adamas VIP-5 images:1) Large diaphragm condensor Neumann U87 Contour cutaway Adamas natural woven "1180" top Teardrop - bass side only 2080
2) Small diaphragm condensor Schoeps CMC64 Contour cutaway Adamas natural woven "1180" top Teardrop - bass side only 2080
3) Large diaphragm condensor Neumann U87 Deep Non-cutaway Adamas natural woven "1180" top Multi Sound Hole, Elite style 1680
4) Dynamic Shure SM57 Deep Non-cutaway Adamas natural woven "1180" top Multi Sound Hole, Elite style 1680
5) Large diaphragm condensor Sound Deluxe E47 Deep Cutaway Uni-directional composite graphite Multi Sound Hole, Elite style - bass side only 1581
also here is the image list for the 2007 BCS:
1. Large diaphram condenser Contour Multi soundhole Spruce
2. Dynamic Contour Multi soundhole Spruce
3. Large diaphram condenser Deep Cutaway Multi soundhole Graphite
4. Large diaphram condenser Deep Non-Cutaway Center soundhole Spruce
5. Dynamic Deep Non-Cutaway Center soundhole Spruce-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More:Image Microphone to Record Body Style Guitar Top Sound Hole Pattern
1 Large diaphram condensor Contour cutaway Figured Koa Multi Sound Hole, Elite style
2 Dynamic Contour cutaway Figured Koa Multi Sound Hole, Elite style
3 Large diaphram condensor Deep Cutaway Uni-directional composite graphite Multi Sound Hole, Elite style
4 Large diaphram condensor Deep Non-cutaway AAA Spruce Center Sound Hole, Legend Style
5 Dynamic Deep Non-cutaway AAA Spruce Center Sound Hole, Legend Style
........Conclusion:I bought on Ebay a VIP-5, how do I know if he has specific images for Ovation or for Adamas? :confused: |
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Location: Germany, where delicious wine is growing (Rheinh) | Great information!
I have four VIP-5 preamps. They are signed with a sticker on the can and on the preamp. I have a "Set 0", "Set 1", "Set 5" and one set without stickers. But I I don't know what guitar they are for, excepted the "Set 5", it's original in my 1680. The "Set 1" I think is out of a 2007C, but mybe I'm wrong.
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Location: Italia, Zianigo di Mirano (Venezia) | ...I have two VIP-5.One is "Set 0" ,and the other is "Set 4"... :confused: |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by bburg:
The "Set 1" I think is out of a 2007C, but mybe I'm wrong. More likely a 2006C, since the LAVKoa came with set 1. |
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Location: Tennessee | My 2007BCS has Set 0. |
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Location: Italia, Zianigo di Mirano (Venezia) | ...Bernie, if you try to change on the 2007C,( or an Adamas), all the four VIP-5 set the same, you feel any difference in sound? Not me .... :rolleyes: |
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Location: Germany, where delicious wine is growing (Rheinh) | There is a bit diffence, but not really hearable if you have not the chance to play them all one after the other in the same guitar. And only one is a bit different, it's the one without a label. The others are sounding similar to my ears.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I just checked the one in my baritone 6 and it is set 6. Anybody know what this one represents for each setting? |
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Location: Italia, Zianigo di Mirano (Venezia) | ...dense mistery.Almost I write to MS.Wait.... :confused: |
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Location: Italia, Zianigo di Mirano (Venezia) | John Budny send to me: set0:Ovation wood top guitars sent to European Union.Set1:2006Collectors. Set2: AdamasW597.Set3:Adamas598. Set4: Adamas guitars sent to European Union & Adamas2080. Set5: Adamas1680. Set6: 2008Collectors. :rolleyes: |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Good info.
Did he by chance tell you the emulations provided by each of them?
I would like to know what #6 is. |
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Location: Italia, Zianigo di Mirano (Venezia) | ...No, the attached file there are only this informations .... |
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Location: Italia, Zianigo di Mirano (Venezia) | ..this is the secon mail of John Budny: "There should be the set info just look on the bottom of the spread sheet at the different pages for Set0 Set1 etc."
John has been very kind to answer me.I do not understand what it means.I do not want to disturb it again John.Someone will explain to me?Tanks at all..... :) |
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Location: Tennessee | The Excel spreadsheet should have tabs on the bottom that will open other pages within the workbook. If you're having trouble getting it to work, email me the file and I'll get them posted up. |
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Location: Italia, Zianigo di Mirano (Venezia) | ..I send you email with file...I hope |
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Location: Italia, Zianigo di Mirano (Venezia) | ....Eureka i find the pages.... |
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Location: Germany | Hi,
is it possible to get the file, too?
My CE-06 and 1680 both have the VIP, but their "papers" aren't a big help. Following tittis informations they should be set 1 and set 5.
Neither the PreAmps nor the cans show any sticker or mark indicating the version of the VIP. - And I must admit that after playing with my iDea, I'm not sure which PreAmp belongs to which guitar. :-(
Any advice?
Many thanks in advance and have a nice weekend,
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Location: Italia, Zianigo di Mirano (Venezia) | I can not download files on post.Bobbo will post them .... :( |
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Location: Italia, Zianigo di Mirano (Venezia) | now I can try....
Ovation Instruments
VIP Image Set Index
Image Set Number Models Used On
0 Ovation Wood Top Guitars Sent to European Union
1 2006 Collectors'
2 Adamas W597
3 Adamas W598
4 Adamas Guitars Sent to European Union and Adamas 2080
5 Adamas 1680
6 2008 Collectors' |
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Location: Italia, Zianigo di Mirano (Venezia) | SET-0:
Image Microphone Style to Record Microphone Model to Record Body Style Guitar Top Sound Hole Pattern Model #
1 Large diaphragm condensor Sound Deluxe E47 Deep Cutaway AAA Bear Claw Spruce Multi Sound Hole, Elite style 1987 Collectors'
2 Dynamic Shure SM57 Deep Cutaway AAA Bear Claw Spruce Multi Sound Hole, Elite style 1987 Collectors'
3 Large diaphragm condensor Sound Deluxe E47 Deep Cutaway Uni-directional composite graphite Multi Sound Hole, Elite style 1581
4 Large diaphragm condensor Sound Deluxe E47 Mid Depth Cutaway AAA Spruce Center Sound Hole, Legend Style C779LX
5 Dynamic Shure SM57 Mid Depth Cutaway AAA Spruce Center Sound Hole, Legend Style C779LX |
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Location: Italia, Zianigo di Mirano (Venezia) | SET-1 :
Image Microphone Style to Record Microphone Model to Record Body Style Guitar Top Sound Hole Pattern Model #
1 Large diaphragm condensor Sound Deluxe E47 Contour cutaway Figured Koa Multi Sound Hole, Elite style 2006-KOA
2 Dynamic Shure SM57 Contour cutaway Figured Koa Multi Sound Hole, Elite style 2006-KOA
3 Large diaphragm condensor Sound Deluxe E47 Deep Cutaway Uni-directional composite graphite Multi Sound Hole, Elite style 1581
4 Large diaphragm condensor Sound Deluxe E47 Deep Non-cutaway AAA Spruce Center Sound Hole, Legend Style 1719
5 Dynamic Shure SM57 Deep Non-cutaway AAA Spruce Center Sound Hole, Legend Style 1719 |
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Adamas 2080 NWT VIP-5 Images
