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Location: Orlando, FL | My 07 Collectors developed a buzz on the 13th fret on the 3rd and 4th strings. It is vibrating against the 14 fret on those strings.
This started about 2 weeks ago just when it started getting really cold(for us) here. We've had the heat going for a much longer stretch than normal this year and the house is definitely drier than usual.
I like the action where it is. Do I need to tweek the rod a bit? I am going to change strings, but I don;t think that will make a difference.
I don't seem to have issues on my other guitars. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Yeah, all the ones I have out have hated the cold. I put them all back in cases except the one I'm playing.
I suspect your top has sunk a little or the neck tweeked itself. It's the cold and the dry of the heat.
They'll fix themselves when the humidity comes back. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Whenever we fire up the fire place (yes, I actually have one down here) we also start the humidifier to keep the house around 40%. Heat will dry up the house in a hurry, and if it gets below 35% or so, the guitars will suffer. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Still 2 weeks for a guitar to dry out enough to cause buzz seems a bit quick to me. Usually it is months in the making and then the additional change makes it seem sudden.
Do you have anything around the house that checks the humidity throughout the year? |
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Location: NW of Philadelphia | Some guitars are more sensitive than others.
IMHO, it could be just a simple neck adjustment due to the seasonal changes, give it a little relief and see. If there is still a buzz, you can always put it back to where is was and try something else. |
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| I've had the opposite issue with all of my guitars, wood boxes and Os and As alike; every single one has de-tuned about a half step every other day. |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Originally posted by stephent28:
Do you have anything around the house that checks the humidity throughout the year? Nope, here in Florida, about 8 months of the year it's pretty much 80 to 100%. Then we get a break and it drop downs to about 60%.
Since it's never been an issue before, I never worried about it. This is pretty abnormal for us. We haven't had a string of weather this cold this long since 1977. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by Designzilla:
We haven't had a string of weather this cold this long since 1977.  "How COLD was it?" |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | The '07C I sold to my friend Jeff is having the same problem. Funny, he is from Florida and hasn't gotten used to the dryness here. He owns a huge house and likes to keep his guitar in a stand but I gave him a humidfier and told him to keep it in the case.
I don't think a neck adjustment is in order if it's buzzing at the 14th fret. I think what you need to do is put another shim in for now, then take it back out when conditions change. It's been my experience that after a guitar is 5 or 6 years old, they become more stable and are not affected by humidity changes as much as newer guitars. I have no trouble with my older guitars, but the newer ones get a set-up twice a year. If you need advice on adding a shim you can either do a search, or just PM me and I'll walk you through it. |
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Location: Michigan | Originally posted by CanterburyStrings:
It's been my experience that after a guitar is 5 or 6 years old, they become more stable and are not affected by humidity changes as much as newer guitars. That is exactly what the local luthier said to me. He said sometimes the neck can become so set it renders the truss rod somewhat useless.
I have had my 1767 for over a year, and I have yet to notice it moving. It has a few twists and turns but they have all be compensated for and now it is like a rock. |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Thanks for all the input. I guess I could add a shim, but I really like the way it's set up.
Oh well, that beats that fricking buzz! It's only 2 strings at 13th fret, but it drives me crazy. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | How often do you play there? |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Originally posted by Beal:
How often do you play there? A lot, I'll hit them in every blues in A or E, and that covers 99 percent of what I play! |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Blooze with a buzz, you gotta love it.
I found that on my SJkoa the action had dropped a full 32nd and had a weee buzz on E&B, 1,2&3 frets. Neck warp was still OK so I put one of those green stringy dampits with hot water in it and a Keyser sound hole plug with the sponge in it and left it in the case for 2 days. Took it out this morning and it's back up to playable.
To Serge's point with everything going flat that happens. The hanging guitars were almost half a tone flat and out of tune. Now the SJ was about 25 cents sharp after the humidity infusion. With the cold and dry the tops shrink and drop ever so slightly, but enough to make it go that far out of tune. You'll see when the heat and humidity comes back they'll all go sharp till they stablizie in the new environment. That's why you need more than one guitar to play. |
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Location: Michigan | Originally posted by Designzilla:
Originally posted by Beal:
How often do you play there? A lot, I'll hit them in every blues in A or E, and that covers 99 percent of what I play! |
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Can temp/humidity change cause fret buzz?
