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bvince
Posted 2010-01-03 2:05 PM (#384305)
Subject: Preamp Swap Out - Op24 to VIP (Pictures)



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OK ... I know it's been a LONG time since I did this, and I promised at the time to post pics when I finished - but I never did. So as ONE New Year's resolution I decided to actually follow up and post the pictures that have been on my camera for months. I'm sorry I forgot to take a before picture, and I probably missed a couple steps, but you'll be able to get the idea. I DO NOT recommend this proceedure for anyone that is not 200% confident in their handyman capabilities. It was VERY difficult to make the hole in just the right place, and it DID require filling some of the old hole material, in addition to working through the hole in the back. Then there was the paint matching challenge. (additionally matching the bowl texture) It still didn't turn out perfect, but I can live with it. I started this project with an understanding that I may screw it up and have to end up sending it to the factory to fix it. Anyways ... here goes .... Preamp Install Photos
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twistedlim
Posted 2010-01-03 3:54 PM (#384306 - in reply to #384305)
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Amazing work there Vince.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2010-01-03 4:00 PM (#384307 - in reply to #384305)
Subject: Re: Preamp Swap Out - Op24 to VIP (Pictures)



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Thanx Vince. That is very educational.
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2010-01-03 6:03 PM (#384308 - in reply to #384305)
Subject: Re: Preamp Swap Out - Op24 to VIP (Pictures)


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I hear Fender is hiring... :p :D :p :D
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2010-01-03 7:23 PM (#384309 - in reply to #384305)
Subject: Re: Preamp Swap Out - Op24 to VIP (Pictures)


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I'd say no one could do better. Used to be the factory wouldn't do this switch...maybe they will now for a price.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2010-01-03 7:46 PM (#384310 - in reply to #384305)
Subject: Re: Preamp Swap Out - Op24 to VIP (Pictures)
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Great job Bryan! That took some courage...
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stellarjim
Posted 2010-01-03 7:48 PM (#384311 - in reply to #384305)
Subject: Re: Preamp Swap Out - Op24 to VIP (Pictures)


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Hey Vince...great work. I'm impressed. I have a dent in my truck. Can you help out a brother??? LOL.
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MWoody
Posted 2010-01-04 8:52 AM (#384312 - in reply to #384305)
Subject: Re: Preamp Swap Out - Op24 to VIP (Pictures)



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Awesome use of a stiff stipple splatter application (phew)!
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2010-01-04 8:56 AM (#384313 - in reply to #384305)
Subject: Re: Preamp Swap Out - Op24 to VIP (Pictures)


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Location: Marlton, NJ
Nice job Bryan!
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Nick B.
Posted 2010-01-04 9:34 AM (#384314 - in reply to #384305)
Subject: Re: Preamp Swap Out - Op24 to VIP (Pictures)



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Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch
Fantastic work. Using clay to determine the position of the new electronics is a great idea. If there's ever a book on repairing Ovation/Adamas guitars, this needs to be in it. Thanks for sharing.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2010-01-04 10:20 AM (#384315 - in reply to #384305)
Subject: Re: Preamp Swap Out - Op24 to VIP (Pictures)


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Originally posted by stellarjim:
Hey Vince...great work. I'm impressed. I have a dent in my truck. Can you help out a brother??? LOL.
Why would you want a preamp in the side of your truck?
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bvince
Posted 2010-01-04 1:24 PM (#384316 - in reply to #384305)
Subject: Re: Preamp Swap Out - Op24 to VIP (Pictures)



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Thanks for the compliments ... but I must admit that I now suffer from frequent panic attacks.

Jim ... I'm not very keen on body work, but depending on that dent, you might want to try pulling it out with a toilet plunger (:

Nick, the modeling clay template idea was Woody's if I remember right.(maybe I'm wrong)
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bburg
Posted 2010-01-04 2:24 PM (#384317 - in reply to #384305)
Subject: Re: Preamp Swap Out - Op24 to VIP (Pictures)



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Hi Bryan,
Thats really a fatastic job you've made with this guitar. Congratulation!!

I've also upgraded two of my oldies. The 1614 with a iDea preamp and the 1624, I bought from Terry last summer, with a VIP-5 incl. the XLR output jack, I've catched on ebay 2 weeks ago. Both are sounding great now.
I've a lathe engine at home. So I could make me special screws for closing the holes of the battery holder and the old preamps. At the idea preamp, I fitted the hole of the battery holder with the input jack.
http://ovationfanclub.ning.com/photo/album/show?id=2194223%3AAlbum%...

Bernie
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bvince
Posted 2010-01-04 8:44 PM (#384318 - in reply to #384305)
Subject: Re: Preamp Swap Out - Op24 to VIP (Pictures)



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It must be nice to have special equipment. All I had was fiberglass body filler and sand paper. Oh ... wait a minute ... the Dremel tool and the airbrush DID come in handy too.
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PeterD
Posted 2010-01-05 8:35 AM (#384319 - in reply to #384305)
Subject: Re: Preamp Swap Out - Op24 to VIP (Pictures)


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Location: Taichung, Taiwan
I can't imagine cutting on an Adamas ... you have confidence! But by the quality of your work it looks like you have done similar things before.
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2010-01-05 9:01 AM (#384320 - in reply to #384305)
Subject: Re: Preamp Swap Out - Op24 to VIP (Pictures)


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I did the original clay mold. It was the only way I could think of to try and capture the contours and be able to transfer them to another guitar. I used a guitar with an existing op-pro as the model, so I knew exactly where the cutout should be.



It was scary - while it wasn't an Adamas, it was someone else's guitar... so if I messed up, it would have been painful.

It is definitely doable though with some forethought and patience.
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bvince
Posted 2010-01-05 10:07 AM (#384321 - in reply to #384305)
Subject: Re: Preamp Swap Out - Op24 to VIP (Pictures)



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I forgot to mention that I also used a diferent guitar (with existing VIP hole) to make the mold also.
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