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nosajwp
Posted 2009-09-07 9:33 PM (#399124)
Subject: Elite 12 Strings?


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Which models of Elite 12 string had a cutaway? Are there any deep bowl Elite 12 strings?
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G8r
Posted 2009-09-07 9:52 PM (#399125 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?


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The 1858 is a SSB cutaway. I believe the only deep bowl Elite 12-ers (both full body) were the 1758, and my favorite, my 1538:

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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-09-07 11:13 PM (#399126 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?



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WOW, G8r, that is one GORGEOUS guitar!

;)
Willa
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Patch
Posted 2009-09-07 11:34 PM (#399127 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?



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G8r, I want that elite to go with my 1537. What a pair they'd make!
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G8r
Posted 2009-09-07 11:37 PM (#399128 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?


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Originally posted by Patch:
G8r, I want that elite to go with my 1537. What a pair they'd make!
Sorry, Patch. She's already married to my 1537.


Note: I've since replaced the tuner buttons on the 1538 with rosewood buttons from Temp, to match the 1537.

Thanks, Willa!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-09-07 11:44 PM (#399129 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?


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How does a guy who looks like a Columbian drug load afford so many great guitars?

Oh wait, I think I just answered my own question...
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dweezil
Posted 2009-09-08 4:22 AM (#399130 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?


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The 1758 is also a deep bowl...



This gets me thinking what the difference between the 1758 and 1538? Is one considered to be "better" (i.e. better woods/better sounding) than the other. I know, I know, "better" is subjective but you know what I mean! HOPEFULLY.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-09-08 4:46 AM (#399131 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?



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"This gets me thinking what the difference between the 1758 and 1538?"

:confused: 220!

I believe that the 1538 has that floating fretboard end like the 1537...
Don't know what the 1758 has.
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G8r
Posted 2009-09-08 8:06 AM (#399132 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?


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Originally posted by dweezil:
This gets me thinking what the difference between the 1758 and 1538? Is one considered to be "better" (i.e. better woods/better sounding) than the other. I know, I know, "better" is subjective but you know what I mean! HOPEFULLY.
Minor differences: higher-graded or better tap-tone top (especially the earliest ones), floating fretboard end, 5-piece wood binding.

Major difference: lots of mojo poured into the 1537/1538

By mojo I mean intangibles, like the skill of the specific people who worked on these; their feeling of being part of something "special" in putting out a unique guitar (it was after all the first widely distributed wood-top with such a radical departure from the traditional soundhole); their desire to make these as close to a wood-top Adamas as possible (remind me to ask Beal if there were separate, competing teams building the Adamas and the early Elites); maybe a little extra "smoke" during break times (remember the era); etc.
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G8r
Posted 2009-09-08 8:19 AM (#399133 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?


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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
How does a guy who looks like a Columbian drug load afford so many great guitars?

Oh wait, I think I just answered my own question...
Now, Paul, you know I'd have to kill you if I told you...

Given that I'm a researcher in pharmacology, you're not that far off.
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AlanM
Posted 2009-09-08 8:37 AM (#399134 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?


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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
How does a guy who looks like a Columbian drug load afford so many great guitars?

Oh wait, I think I just answered my own question...
Lol!

"Drug load?"

I'm just imagining the conversation...

-- Who's that G8r guy?

-- Ahhh, you know him...he's the one who looks like a kilo o'cocaine!

(I know, I know...just a typo...but it's usually MY typoes that come out funny!)
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nosajwp
Posted 2009-09-08 8:56 PM (#399135 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?


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So...there aren't too many Elite 12'ers with a cutaway, huh?
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G8r
Posted 2009-09-08 8:58 PM (#399136 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?


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Very, very few people ever have need of a cutaway on a 12-string. Kinda like teats on a nun.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-09-08 9:17 PM (#399137 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?
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Originally posted by AlanM:
"Drug load?"
<undercover photo by the DEA, CIA, FBI, NSA, SPCA, PITA and the OFC...



But losing the 'stash has done wonders fer his git playin'!
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-09-08 9:17 PM (#399138 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?



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I have a cutaway 12. And ever since I laid eyes on Sally Field, I have this thing for nuns, too.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-09-08 9:27 PM (#399139 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?


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Now we need to get down to the Black and White of the issue (or the -5 and -6 of the issue):










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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-09-08 9:34 PM (#399140 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?


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But, here is a cutaway Elite 12: my former 1985C 12 2985:



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geneo
Posted 2009-09-09 7:40 PM (#399141 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?


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mike that white 12 is gorgeous... WOW very nice
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geneo
Posted 2009-09-09 7:49 PM (#399142 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?


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Has anyone ever came across a KOA top elite 12?
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-09-09 8:02 PM (#399143 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?


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Originally posted by geneo:
mike that white 12 is gorgeous... WOW very nice
Geno, got a nice one in the for sale section with your name on it.
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geneo
Posted 2009-09-09 8:21 PM (#399144 - in reply to #399124)
Subject: Re: Elite 12 Strings?


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Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Originally posted by geneo:
mike that white 12 is gorgeous... WOW very nice
Geno, got a nice one in the for sale section with your name on it.
sorry jim i just bought marks 12string pacemaker 1615.... gotta hold up for right now thanks though :)
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