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1617
Posted 2009-04-07 2:09 AM (#419944)
Subject: a tale of 2 auctions


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If you have read this thread "what would you do? good guitar not as described" I won't repeat the details here. Briefly - guitar significantly not as described dispute through paypal and closed in my favor with return and refund. Received a 1986 Collectors today purchased through ebay that claimed a slight imperfection in the top that turned out to be a loose brace with the face caving in. Contacted the seller and he said send it back for a full refund. Some people are reasonable though delusional. Some people are delusional and quite unreasonable. Maybe I should not buy my guitars site unseen or at least with a return provision. Thoughts?
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dave3dg
Posted 2009-04-07 3:59 AM (#419945 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions


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Thats a shame I have the same but it is perfect.
For an SSB it has a very tidy sound.

I also had a dispute on Fleabay on the very same subject which was for a Celeb 0028 very much 'Made in China' with loads of defects. Not nearly like yours though. :(

Got my lucra back but had to pay for the return shipping to the dishonest little twerp. :mad:

On a good note, I have bought three O's from Fleabay and I am very happy with them, One from the US and two from the UK, luck of the draw I suppose.

What about a Mothership repair?

dave
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dweezil
Posted 2009-04-07 4:17 AM (#419946 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions


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It's very important to get all the details, pics extra and be 100% happy yourself. Check their feedback. Also it's always worth paying for insurance. If it looks too good to be true it probably is.

I've had FAR TOO MANY Ovations/Adamas shipped over from the US and all but one was OK. It was an Adamas that the top had CAVED in. The seller refunded me and even paid the return shipping, perhaps because I didn't really give him an option.

If the sale meets the criteria then you can always lodge a complaint with Ebay/Palpal and let them bash the seller over the head. It's worked for me in the past (seller didn't ship item and then didn't respond to my mails).

And remember : let's be careful out there, Caveat Emptor!
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BT717
Posted 2009-04-07 5:29 AM (#419947 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions


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Let me make a suggestion. Since you are now a member here, buy from the for sale section. I have NEVER heard a single member here be Upset about a purrchase they've made. The Members are honorable and You will definitely get a guitar that is exactly as advertised.
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dweezil
Posted 2009-04-07 5:31 AM (#419948 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions


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What BT717 said!
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-04-07 5:52 AM (#419949 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions


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Come on down to Trader Jim's, where the prices are
:eek: :eek: I N S A N E !!!! :eek: :eek:
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AussieJames
Posted 2009-04-07 6:31 AM (#419950 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions



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Not to mention the owner :D

Sorry Jim couldn't resist!!

Again what BT717 said.

AJ
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2009-04-07 9:00 AM (#419951 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions


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Buy from Al (aka Mr. Big).
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2009-04-07 10:50 AM (#419952 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions



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Don't count on either PayPal or eBay to be of much help once they have their money. I bought a high end Strat which was not as described, and asked for a PayPal judgment. They said to send it back, which I did. I never got my money back.

I always pay with a credit card, as my company WILL get the money back.

A seller with integrity is honor-bound to pay for return shipping if the instrument isn't as described. The point: not all sellers have that integrity. Bottom line: better to eat the cost and send it back if it's cheaper than being stuck with a bad guitar.

Thus endeth the rant.
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BT717
Posted 2009-04-07 11:13 AM (#419953 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions


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Originally posted by AussieJames:
Not to mention the owner :D

Sorry Jim couldn't resist!!

Again what BT717 said.

AJ
Glad you said it A.J.,though, I will admit I thought about it to! :D
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1617
Posted 2009-04-07 3:56 PM (#419954 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions


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Thanks for all sympathy, advice, consoling, encouragement - which raises another issue. In the evolution of mankind we are now communicating face unseen, voice unheard, flesh unfelt and with personality, prejudice and bias greatly removed from the interaction. Yet with greater humanity. Paradoxical, ain't it?
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-04-07 4:23 PM (#419955 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions



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Originally posted by 1617:
with personality, prejudice and bias greatly removed from the interaction.
I dunno about that.
Where personality, prejudice and bias are absent I beleive we tend to bring our own.
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Waskel
Posted 2009-04-08 7:58 AM (#419956 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions



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The part about "Yet with greater humanity" - what exactly do you mean?
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Weaser P
Posted 2009-04-08 8:20 AM (#419957 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions


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I think he means "but with a lot more kindness towards human beings in general", Wask.

But I could be wrong...
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Waskel
Posted 2009-04-08 8:34 AM (#419958 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions



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Oh, I see.

That's good, then I can disregard it along with the other statement.
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Waskel
Posted 2009-04-08 9:03 AM (#419959 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions



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By the way, Weas, your PM box is full...
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stephent28
Posted 2009-04-08 10:28 AM (#419960 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions



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Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
By the way, Weas, your PM box is full...
Management decision.
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Weaser P
Posted 2009-04-08 12:14 PM (#419961 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions


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...and probably a good one (but it should have room now anyway).
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muzza
Posted 2009-04-09 9:22 AM (#419962 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions



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I bought my 1768 from US eBay sight unseen. When it finally arrived, I couldn't believe the condition it was in. I don't think it had ever been played.

Sometimes your luck's in, sometimes it ain't.
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wilblee
Posted 2009-04-09 9:56 AM (#419963 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions


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I've bought and sold more than a few guitars, as well as other gear, on eBay with only one significant headache. That was from a buyer. For me, it's all about feedback and a stated return policy. I don't care how much I want the guitar, if the seller doesn't have a lot of strong feedback, as a seller, and an acceptable return policy, I ain't bidding.
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1617
Posted 2009-04-10 1:48 AM (#419964 - in reply to #419944)
Subject: Re: a tale of 2 auctions


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Good advice.
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