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v74
Posted 2009-03-07 11:35 PM (#424335)
Subject: Adamas 2087


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Just wanna know your opinions about this customshop Adamas called 2087 that I found in some japanese online site.

Not sure If these was discussed before. So I decide to post a new topic here.

As a Adamas user, lover or collector, what do you think about this model?
Love / Hate / Nothing ?
Comment = ?

Spec :
MODEL: 2087
TOP: Carbon Graphite
BODY: Fiberglass Cloth, Deep Contour
EPAULET: 13-Piece Exotic Hardwoods-Bass Side Only
NECK ADJUSTMENT: 2-Way Truss Rod
NECK FINISH: Natural Satin
FINGERBOARD: Walnut
INLAYS: Resin - Impregnated Walnut
BRIDGE: Carved Walnut
MACHINES: Gold Schaller
PICKUP: Ovation High Output Pickup OCP-1
PREAMP: VIP-5





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edensharvest
Posted 2009-03-07 11:42 PM (#424336 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087


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Location: Chehalis, Washington
As an Adamas lover, I'd say...

"WOW"

Say 08 Collector's with a broccoli top...and in color!

Those are fabulous. Curious that we didn't see those show up on this market.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-03-08 12:05 AM (#424337 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087



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I like the Red 'un. :eek:

Newbie question... If it don't have a manhole cover on the back, how do you get in there to tinker?
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dvd
Posted 2009-03-08 12:17 AM (#424338 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087



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pop out the pre-amp can, start popping estrogen pills
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v74
Posted 2009-03-08 4:21 AM (#424339 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087


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What I like are the slothead, which is always look cool, the VIP-5 and the single epaulet.

Dislike the contour bowl and think that the inlay like 08C must be much better.

Also surprise that these model didn't appear in the US market.
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2009-03-08 4:34 AM (#424340 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087


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Any idea what the nut width is?

Karl
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Jérôme
Posted 2009-03-08 5:15 AM (#424341 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087



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Hello,

Karl, it's a 1-11/16" nut and the price it too high at my opinion... :(
But it's a so great looking guitar especially in beige color!!!

J :)



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FrançoisJR
Posted 2009-03-08 6:29 AM (#424342 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087


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What's a pity!!! Ovation did them with a 1"1/16 neck :(

I think that the sound is great!!! ;)

François JR
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v74
Posted 2009-03-08 7:47 AM (#424343 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087


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Originally posted by Jérôme:
Hello,

Karl, it's a 1-11/16" nut and the price it too high at my opinion... :(
But it's a so great looking guitar especially in beige color!!!

J :)
+1 :D
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2009-03-08 7:50 AM (#424344 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087


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This is the kinda stuff they should be doing for the domestic market. Did I read that correctly, a hand-laid cloth contour bowl? wow!
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TAFKAR
Posted 2009-03-08 8:17 AM (#424345 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087



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It's like a narrow neck 08C with broccoli and with colour choices. Me rikey velly much!!

Did I translate the price right (Are they really asking $US8,000?)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-03-08 9:13 AM (#424346 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087


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Beautiful guitars! I'm still not a fan of the contour bowl, but I could live with it for one of those.....
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-03-08 9:39 AM (#424347 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087



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Seeing all those different bursts in a row reminds me. I just can't learn to like them.
Wood top bursts a different. They seem natural. Maybe the wood grain ties the two colors together. A burst on a graphite top seems abrupt and un-natural.
Solid black is great. Solid anything would be better.

And I'm with Temp on the idea of a hand-laid, contour bowl.
Has anyone played enough of the three generations of bowls to compare? I guess I'd break them down to 1) hand-layed 2) molded and 3)improved LX molded.

In about 10 days I'll be using a contour bowl more than I ever had before. After that I'll have a definate opinion on how they work for me.
Like Moody, I've never had a problem with the original design.

Now that I've rambled on and taken this thread in multiple directions, I'll shut up.

One more thing... Why don't they make these for the US market?
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-03-08 9:53 AM (#424348 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087



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Cuz US buyers want made in Korea/China stuff!

Really! I look around my house (room) and the only thing Made In the USA are my Ovations.

Maybe my stove and refrigerator... (Naw, they're probably imported too)
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-03-08 10:44 AM (#424349 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087
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Don't blame Ovation for not making these for the US market. They just build what the dealers or distributors order.

In the US, Lost Art Vintage is pretty much the only dealer with a vision to order high end custom runs for his client base. Sammy and GitCtr will order custom runs of more mainstream models (legends, elites).

But in Japan (Nakao) and Europe (formally LeBoit in France and MusikMeyer in Germany) those guys had been doing this for years. Some of the coolest models I've ever seen have been commissioned by these distributors.

Toby
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edensharvest
Posted 2009-03-08 10:48 AM (#424350 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087


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Yup. Bought a bag of dried peaches at Costco the other day. Took em home, checked the bag...product of China.

Took them back the next day...

Go check out a nice set of All-Clad stainless cookware, and for a $700 - $1000 set of high grade cookware, it's made overseas as well.

I'm working my way into a set of Kitchen Craft - made for over 100 years in Wisconsin. It's not a wonder our national economy is so much in the toilet...we've spent the last 30 years sending all our jobs and all our money overseas, and we wonder about the rest of it.

Basic economics:

[greedy people] + [too much unnecessary debt] + [reduced job pool] = [ECONOMIC CRISIS]

Sorry, I digress...let's get back to the guitars.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-03-08 11:50 AM (#424351 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087


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I want a red one, but not at that price.
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v74
Posted 2009-03-08 1:01 PM (#424352 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087


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Location: Bangkok, Thailand
Really pricey !

I personally like the beige one. (-7)
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G8r
Posted 2009-03-08 5:20 PM (#424353 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087


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Skinny-neck 08C with a broccoli top! Way cool, but way expensive.
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FlySig
Posted 2009-03-08 6:01 PM (#424354 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087



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I'm not a particular fan of the slot head, but the deep bowl red burst is really nice.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2009-03-08 6:03 PM (#424355 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087


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The medallion on the bowl is something I haven't seen before. Very classy.
Beautiful guitars. I'd be curious to know how this compares in price to a comparable Adamas Custom Shop order here in the states.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-03-08 7:25 PM (#424356 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087
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Originally posted by Jonmark Stone:
The medallion on the bowl is something I haven't seen before. Very classy.
A lot of nakao custom runs have that. Nobody in new hartford can sign kanji on the labels.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2009-03-08 7:33 PM (#424357 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087


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you could (probably) order a custom project with those specs here in the States for less than that....

I'm only guessing....
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-03-08 8:42 PM (#424358 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087



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I agree with Jeff. Isn't Adamas a custom shop these days? Figure out what you want, contact your dealer, and get your money ready. If you're willing to pay for it, I'd bet they'll build it.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2009-03-08 9:30 PM (#424359 - in reply to #424335)
Subject: Re: Adamas 2087


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Maybe we've just had it too good for too long. We'd all like one of these fabulous guitars, but the proviso seems to be "not at that price"

The Japanese market seems to understand that you need to pay for quality, which is probably why they are only available in that territory. Also bear in mind that these are catalog prices, not dealer discounted prices, so the actual price over there may be somewhat lower.

I make a significant proportion of my living from importing and selling musical instrument accessories and I am painfully aware of how the current global econony is affecting the manufacture and distribution of music products. Mark my words, the days of cheap gear are coming to an end. Very soon.
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