The Ovation Fan Club
The Ovation Fan Club
Forum Search | Statistics | User Listing Forums | Calendars | Albums | Language
Your are viewing as a Guest. ( logon | register )

Random quote: "Believe me when I say that some of the most amazing music in history was made on equipment that's not as good as what you own right now." - Jol Dantzig



Jump to page : 12
Now viewing page 1 [25 messages per page]
Evil Thoughts

View previous thread :: View next thread
   Member Communities -> Bottom Feeding Luthiery GuildMessage format
 
seesquare
Posted 2012-08-03 6:15 PM (#457350)
Subject: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
So, get the idea? I will keep y'all posted on my progress.

Top of the page Bottom of the page
fillhixx
Posted 2012-08-03 6:38 PM (#457353 - in reply to #457350)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts



Joined:
November 2005
Posts: 4809

Location: Campbell River, British Columbia
!?!?!?!?! A 12 string slide Frankenreso?
Top of the page Bottom of the page
seesquare
Posted 2012-08-03 9:55 PM (#457359 - in reply to #457350)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
Close. No slide, though. And, A/E. The 'ngineering may be daunting.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
seesquare
Posted 2012-08-03 9:59 PM (#457360 - in reply to #457350)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
Using a 4-A Kermode "Iron Spruce" top, from up-yer-way, too. 35-to-40 lines-per-inch. Probably leave it 3/16", for added rigidity.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
seesquare
Posted 2012-08-06 6:51 PM (#457434 - in reply to #457360)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
Some additional photos. The stamped marking on the butchered soundboard is "NOV 28 1980"
The new top isn't perfect in the center-glued joint, but WTF; that's where the cone is going, anyway!
I reglued the serial # tag back onto the label- it's "S/N 110204"- probably matches up with the inkstamp date pretty well.




Top of the page Bottom of the page
fillhixx
Posted 2012-08-08 11:00 AM (#457500 - in reply to #457350)
Subject: RE: Evil Thoughts



Joined:
November 2005
Posts: 4809

Location: Campbell River, British Columbia

You might wanna reconsider the slide possibilities.......

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tew_fIhz3eY

Top of the page Bottom of the page
seesquare
Posted 2012-08-08 7:11 PM (#457522 - in reply to #457350)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
This thing has got a l-o-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-n-n-n-g way to go. I'm not committed to anything specific, except 12 strings & a deep bowl.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
MWoody
Posted 2012-08-08 8:06 PM (#457523 - in reply to #457350)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts



Joined:
December 2003
Posts: 13983

Location: Upper Left USA
Come to the Dark Side... we play resonators...

You go Sees
Top of the page Bottom of the page
seesquare
Posted 2012-08-08 10:10 PM (#457526 - in reply to #457523)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
So, any thoughts? I think I've got this critter cornered!
Kinda tight around the waist, but that's the problem with a 14-fretter. It moves the bridge & saddle forward, relative to the optimal resonation location. That's probably why 12-fretters are a bit more resonant, to get the bridge into the lower-&-wider part of the soundboard.
The soundwell for the cone looks to be about 1-1/2" deep. Not my 1st time making one of those- basically, 3 rings of 1/2-inch MDF, the diameter of the cone, with a 1/2-inch bottom "shelf" to rest the cone on. It doesn't warp, and machines accurately.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
seesquare
Posted 2012-08-09 2:17 PM (#457545 - in reply to #457350)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
Small problem. Looks like the FET volume-only preamp will have to be relocated. Probably to the bass-side, off the neck joint area. "Gotta break some eggs", I suppose.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
MWoody
Posted 2012-08-09 10:33 PM (#457593 - in reply to #457350)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts



Joined:
December 2003
Posts: 13983

Location: Upper Left USA
Could you use an Oval resonator?
Top of the page Bottom of the page
seesquare
Posted 2012-08-10 11:14 AM (#457611 - in reply to #457350)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
Nah, but thanks for the offer. I'm fine with relocating the electronics. I got the "parts donor" last night, and have a better idea of components placement now. Whatever hit that square-neck Rogue was pretty formidable. I was considering, albeit briefly, a restoration, but the structural damage is too extensive on the beast. I may somehow salvage the back & sides, with the soundwell intact. The neck will be sacrificed, bottomline. May be able to remove the fretboard, though.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
seesquare
Posted 2012-08-14 3:34 PM (#457757 - in reply to #457350)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
Looks like I don't have to move the FET to another location. Durn close, though!
And, not one to toss things out, I am doing a water immersion on the old Rogue carcass to see if it can be born again. Pardon the somewhat sacrilegous tone.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
seesquare
Posted 2012-08-16 5:07 PM (#457867 - in reply to #457350)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
The Rogue is in pieces. Had polyvinyl glue, so the neck popped off easily. Now, got to router-off the damaged top off the body, and decide what to do with a disassembled, square-neck, 12-fret, 1-7/8"-nut, box guitar, with a vestigal soundwell, in need of reconstruction.......
Top of the page Bottom of the page
seesquare
Posted 2012-08-25 9:06 PM (#458235 - in reply to #457350)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
Progress, of sorts.......


Top of the page Bottom of the page
MWoody
Posted 2012-08-25 10:32 PM (#458236 - in reply to #457350)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts



Joined:
December 2003
Posts: 13983

Location: Upper Left USA
Shaping up well!
Top of the page Bottom of the page
seesquare
Posted 2012-08-26 12:16 PM (#458248 - in reply to #458236)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
Thanks! It will be interesting to see if the whole thing stands up to the tension of 12 strings. Glued in the bindings this AM- basswood & mahogany.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
seesquare
Posted 2012-09-04 12:34 PM (#458692 - in reply to #458248)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
It's done. Pictures later this evening. Seems to be handling the tension, thus far. Took a stab, with the dimensional estimates from my diagram. Seems pretty close. Coulda been an engineer, instead of an over-opinionated headshrinker.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
seesquare
Posted 2012-09-04 2:29 PM (#458706 - in reply to #458692)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
Oh yeah, and how the FET preamp functions, too!
Top of the page Bottom of the page
seesquare
Posted 2012-09-04 11:16 PM (#458733 - in reply to #458706)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
My hosting service is down, at present, so the photos will have to wait.
THIS CRITTER ROCKS!!!
I plugged in, and was blown away by the presence & clarity. It's got an easy action, too- 3/32" on the bass, 5/64" on the treble side.
The thinline piezo is in the spider slot, with a bone saddle, and a bone nut. Nice thing about those aluminum necks- don't hardly budge, even with 12 strings, at concert pitch.
I'm thinkin'- REZXII,"Rezzy", for resonator-twelve.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
seesquare
Posted 2012-09-05 7:51 PM (#458779 - in reply to #457350)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
http://www.flickr.com/photos/86687400@N02/7940438422/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/86687400@N02/7940438572/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/86687400@N02/7940433754/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/86687400@N02/7940433888/
Top of the page Bottom of the page
seesquare
Posted 2012-09-05 7:53 PM (#458780 - in reply to #457350)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
Sorry about the shortcut codes. I'll figure out the url thing pretty soon. Until then..........
Top of the page Bottom of the page
seesquare
Posted 2012-09-05 8:00 PM (#458781 - in reply to #457350)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8175/7940438422_b92b39f068_m.jpg
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Old Man Arthur
Posted 2012-09-05 9:15 PM (#458782 - in reply to #457350)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts



Joined:
September 2006
Posts: 10777

Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR
Let Me Help...






And that is a nifty lookin' critter.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
seesquare
Posted 2012-09-05 10:12 PM (#458783 - in reply to #458782)
Subject: Re: Evil Thoughts


Joined:
November 2002
Posts: 3599

Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
Muy Grande Cajones, TBS.
Thanks OMA, for the tech assist!
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Jump to page : 1 2
Now viewing page 1 [25 messages per page]
Jump to forum :
Search this forum
Printer friendly version
E-mail a link to this thread

This message board and website is not sponsored or affiliated with Ovation® Guitars in any way.
Registered to: The Ovation Fanclubâ„¢ Copyright (c) 2001
free counters
(Delete all cookies set by this site)