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Beal
Posted 2008-01-18 3:30 PM (#60193 - in reply to #60168)
Subject: Re: NAMM NEW PRODUCTS



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I think he's right on this one.
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an4340
Posted 2008-01-18 3:31 PM (#60194 - in reply to #60168)
Subject: Re: NAMM NEW PRODUCTS


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I'm shocked, shocked ... that what a company is doing (at NAMM) may not be what's really going on behind the scenes. Like I said before, we won't know until, say about June what's going on.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-01-18 4:03 PM (#60195 - in reply to #60168)
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Originally posted by cliff:
. . but that Tak really "struck a chord with me"(pun intended).
Cliff, sent ya a PM.
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Beal
Posted 2008-01-18 4:15 PM (#60196 - in reply to #60168)
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I read over on another board that Gibson and TC electroninc merged. Interesting.
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cliff
Posted 2008-01-18 4:56 PM (#60197 - in reply to #60168)
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Didn't TC do the electronics for that "RobotGuitar" or was that somebody else??
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Beal
Posted 2008-01-18 4:58 PM (#60198 - in reply to #60168)
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No idea, I don't follow old Hank that much these days. It wouldn't suprise me though if this was the case.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-01-18 5:06 PM (#60199 - in reply to #60168)
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Originally posted by Mauvais Beal:
I read over on another board that Gibson and TC electroninc merged. Interesting.
Yep, here's the story...

TC and Gibson merger
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Damon67
Posted 2008-01-18 5:11 PM (#60200 - in reply to #60168)
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Originally posted by cliff:
Didn't TC do the electronics for that "RobotGuitar" or was that somebody else??
Tronical made the Powertune system for the Robot.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-01-18 5:15 PM (#60201 - in reply to #60168)
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FYI, Gibson claims it's the first robotic self tuning guitar, but it really isn't. There's been a company called Transperformance that's been doing it for years.

http://transperformance.com
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maxdaddy7271
Posted 2008-01-18 7:39 PM (#60202 - in reply to #60168)
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OOOH! THEY LIE!
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Tony Calman
Posted 2008-01-18 11:48 PM (#60203 - in reply to #60168)
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Followup to my post last night...what I was impressed by was two of the Takamines...the TNV360 SC Nashville ($3,249, $2,399 MAP) and the TF450 SMSB Grand Auditorium ($2,869/1,999 MAP). Looked good, great necks, great players. However, unless you have a quiet room, hard to really hear how the guitar projects and its voice. An example is that the 2008 Collectors (Adamas) - really couldn't hear it unless you got close to the epaulet. What shocked me about these two guitars was holding it just by the neck and feeling the guitar vibrate, the strings singing from just the noise in the convention hall. None of the other Taks did this...another guy there summed it up...it was as if the guitars were alive. Didn't find that in any of the Martins I checked out. For a guitar to respond like that...wow!
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-01-19 12:08 AM (#60204 - in reply to #60168)
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People , this sounds like a Heavy -weight , do I dare to say..P..?..

Vic

...Nice to hear from U Tony.. :)
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Beal
Posted 2008-01-19 8:05 AM (#60205 - in reply to #60168)
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Those shows were always so loud! The only thing worse was PASIC. Which is the Percussive Arts Society which puts on a drum show. Imagine all the booths with at least 3 drum kits and a kid with sticks at every one......
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cliff
Posted 2008-01-19 10:55 AM (#60206 - in reply to #60168)
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". . HUH??!! . . . WHA??!! . ."
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-01-19 11:16 AM (#60207 - in reply to #60168)
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Quick thoughts. Ovation was relegated to the back corner of the booth. As others posted the only USA models on display were 6 models of VXT and the 2008 Collector. Lots of new ULTRA and CELEB models on display. Including a SEVEN signature model and a HEROINE DIARIES model. Taking to a Kaman rep later on he said that the booth had to be condensed this year to accomodate LP in the same booth. He said the direction from the brass was "If it ain't new, it ain't going to the show." This might explain the lack of USA models because other than adding the contour bowls to everything, nothing else is really new as far as I know. The 2008 Collector looked and sounded nice, although it still resembles something but form leftover parts in my opinion. Sadly, most people just walked right by it on their way to the Celebs. Plenty of new Takamine stuff which was very nice. I'll post that on the other board. Dave
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-01-19 1:16 PM (#60208 - in reply to #60168)
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The 2008 Collector looked and sounded nice, although it still resembles something but form leftover parts in my opinion. Sadly, most people just walked right by it on their way to the Celebs.
As I said in my first posts about this guitar: it is a finesse instrument: a very professional guitar. It deserves to be experienced and played and hopefully not dismissed on first impression; that said, its not everyone’s cup of tea: that’s why there will only be 100 made. While perhaps sharing some similarities to past models, it is a new direction for Adamas: first cutaway top suspension ring and hand laid glass contour bowl, black/gold trim, etc. But, what do I know...I've only owned it for a little over a month...and have only about 30 hours playing it.

Something else curious FYI: Musicians Friend is again advertising 47 RI's for sale available April 15th for $3499 as well as 30th Anniv. 1687-8's for $2650...and 123Music is advertising the 30th Anniv. 1687's as well...both Blems and Unmarked...Sweetwater is advertising 08C's @ $3999...Both had taken these models off of their inventory...and have now put them back...curious...

;)
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vision
Posted 2008-01-19 2:57 PM (#60209 - in reply to #60168)
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Sadly, most people just walked right by it on their way to the Celebs.

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I am not surprised - they have to make the outside of the clebs look amazing to make up for the inferior construction LOL - I still love my 08 Adamas and very proud to own it. Left over parts????? Step away from the Taks Dave. The 08's are beautiful.

One thing - Fender says, if is ain't new, it isn's being shown - it is me or are there a number of new USA ovations - or were those last years models. IMHO - Fender just didn't want to take the time and effort - I hope that isn't the case.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2008-01-19 3:29 PM (#60210 - in reply to #60168)
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Going back up this afternoon...let me clarify, as an owner of the 47RI and the OFC slothead Adamas (Adamii)...the 2008 Collectors is a beautiful, great guitar. Just unfortunate that the only way to play it was on one knee with a high noise level.
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vision
Posted 2008-01-19 3:50 PM (#60211 - in reply to #60168)
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Thank you Tony for clarifing that the 08 is a beautiful guitar - and I am sorry you don't have a quiet place to play her. That must be like going to Guitar Center and trying to play an acousitc while every 16 year old is playing an electric at full volume. :) Hope you are having a good time.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-01-19 5:34 PM (#60212 - in reply to #60168)
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Hey Tony, glad you're there and able to check it out fot the rest of us...Thanks for the updates! I agree with Leslie: if you could have a quieter place to play it, you would really like how the 08C sounds...
Semper Fi!
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-01-19 9:54 PM (#60213 - in reply to #60168)
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Don't get me wrong, the '08 looked nice and was the best sounding ovation on display. It's a very nice guitar that stands head and shoulders above anything else ovation is making these days. Mine is one the way. I had my choice of s/n 002 or a later one with some customization. Of course I opted for the customization. I'm sure I will enjoy it. It's just that it looks (to me) like an odd mix of parts. New headstock with an old style fretboard. New bowl with an old style top. But maybe that's what they were going after with this model, a mix of two generations. Maybe not a bad idea. Dave
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-01-19 10:22 PM (#60214 - in reply to #60168)
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I have no doubt that the 08 is a great sounding guitar. I'm a bit irritated that Ovation took the orignal slothead fretboard and used it on this guitar. That fretboard should have been only used on the #47 reissue and the OFC guitar. I'm not happy about that.....
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-01-19 10:50 PM (#60215 - in reply to #60168)
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Dave, trust me, you'll love it!
;)
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-01-19 10:52 PM (#60216 - in reply to #60168)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I have no doubt that the 08 is a great sounding guitar. I'm a bit irritated that Ovation took the orignal slothead fretboard and used it on this guitar. That fretboard should have been only used on the #47 reissue and the OFC guitar. I'm not happy about that.....
It's a good fret board.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-01-19 11:10 PM (#60217 - in reply to #60168)
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Paul, it was first used on the original slotheads...the best; the top of the line...I think it’s just a retro mark of the Company's top-of-the-line high end guitar.
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