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BruDeV
Posted 2008-01-06 10:35 PM (#63293)
Subject: Turntables


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While looking for the lubricants for my turntable I came across this site, which is where I bought a lube kit for my Dual 1229.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-01-06 11:10 PM (#63294 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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Interesting site...Thanx !

Vic
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-01-06 11:13 PM (#63295 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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Thanks. I was looking for a new Shure stylus to play the Going to the Dogs album. I haven't used the turntable in years and it has been quite a challenge finding a new stylus. Seems they're used to scratch records these days.
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-01-07 3:52 AM (#63296 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables



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Everything old is new again :D
Bru an off thread question. I notice that you have a Preacher with Viper pups, still with pre amp or passive Viper elecs?
AJ
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brainslag
Posted 2008-01-07 9:00 AM (#63297 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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turn what?
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felonius funk
Posted 2008-01-07 9:26 AM (#63298 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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I have a Dual 1229Q still working perfectly.

For those of you who remember that music can actually sound like music instead of compressed, thin, tiny frequency digital crap, here is a wonderful site that I get much use from.

this place right here

There are many great articles from experts that may help explain why there's a never ending struggle to make digital effects and the like sound natural.
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Prairie Dog
Posted 2008-01-07 12:17 PM (#63299 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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Another great place for all things related to vinyl:

Needle Doctor
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BruDeV
Posted 2008-01-08 11:27 PM (#63300 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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- AussieJames

Just passive
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STK
Posted 2008-01-09 1:35 AM (#63301 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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Fellows, out of curiousity, how are you connecting your turntables, i.e. what kind of amp, preamp, speakers, cables, etc.? Recently built a vacuum tube amp (DIY set from Sun Audio Japan) because solid state amp did not create an emotive ambience. Slowly moving more and more to tube system
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-01-09 1:39 AM (#63302 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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Seems to me as if GRADO has dropped their price-range ...any moving coils there..?..
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-01-09 1:53 AM (#63303 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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STK : Fellows, out of curiousity, how are you connecting your turntables, i.e. what kind of amp, preamp, speakers, cables, etc.? Recently built a vacuum tube amp (DIY set from Sun Audio Japan) because solid state amp did not create an emotive ambience. Slowly moving more and more to tube system
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Next you`re telling us that U`re using ECC83 `s and EL 34 `s , with Passive Volume , Local Feedback , and "Open Baffles" with "Vintage Wharfedale Super 8 RSDD speakers "...and a " KLIPSCH Horn "...do n`t U know that modern tiny , miniscule surround set-ups are the way to go.. :)

Vic

...3 volts and 30 amps. peak current will drive any electromagnetic transducer...not needed for the QUAD Electrostat offcourse..
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-01-09 1:56 AM (#63304 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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I just say.......KT 66...eventually WE 300 B...allthough NOS is not my cup of tea..
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STK
Posted 2008-01-09 10:56 AM (#63305 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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Vic: You seem way ahead of in terms of knowing what you like and how to set it up. Have a 2A3 tube power amp at 4.5W per channel. Don't have turntable (Dual) here, left mine with my mother in Sweden with all the LPs. Still using CD player (Ah Tjoeb) but looking for turntable. Do you recommend any?
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-01-09 11:02 PM (#63306 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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STK : I have THORENS TD 124 , a Radio-Studio Rec. Player ( a 5 kilo cast iron platter with an Aliminum platter on top that can be lifted without stopping the cast-iron ), for your purpose , I would recommend the REGA " PLANAR 3 " , with it`s own ToneArm , build in Scotland , with a P.U that can cope with 0,5 - 1 gram stylus pressure , a LENCO L 75 ( 4 kilo platter ) would be Good ( Swiss made ) , with P.U which has 1,5 - 2 gr. stylus pressure , but since U mention Sweden , why , try to get hold of a BEOGRAM 4004 (Danish ) or Similar , with Tangential ToneArm , and B&o P.U , I do n`t know that specific Amp. of yours , but it should be very musical sounding , since Your amp. seems to be a Single-Ended Amp. , theoretically ( and in real life ) the best Power-Amp. design , specially so , when running in class A mode ( High Bias ) , ..congrats !!...connect a few horn speakers
and You `ll be able to " fill the room with Music " , even a large room , since that You are in Japan , it should be easy for You to obtain a couple of FOSTEX FE 108 drivers , and build a pair of these ,..
http://diyaudioprojects.com/Drivers/FE108/FE108S_horn.htm

..Your SE valve amps. will drive them nicely , and your neighbors will enjoy them too.. :)

Vic
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-01-09 11:11 PM (#63307 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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Ah yes , in Japan a Micro-Seiki would be obtainable for a reasonable fee , and for P.U , try a Nagaoka , DENON or whatever , Japanese stuff is usually Very Good :)

Vic
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STK
Posted 2008-01-10 8:27 AM (#63308 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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Great stuff, Vic. Meant to go to Akihabara soon, the area with all the latest electronic stuff in Tokyo. With the favorable exchange rate, high end audio such as Accuphase is almost half of what it costs in the U.S.

Here is the link to Sun Audio. It has been rated by Stereophile. http://www2.big.or.jp/~sunaudio/
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alpep
Posted 2008-01-10 9:10 AM (#63309 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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I have a few turntables
harmand kardon hk 1000
phase linear linear tracking turntable (made my pioneer)
several bang and oulfsen linear tracking and other turn tables
my favorite is the HK
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-01-10 11:17 AM (#63310 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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STK : Thanks for the link , Nice Looking Amp. ( No feed-back !! ) ahh..the sweet sound of a clean sinus-wave , un-interupted by x-over distortion , only a Single - Ended can deliver that , soft headroom by means of a valve - rectifier , You `re doing Good , Congrats !! What Control / Pre-amp. have U got ? if the pre-amp. is equipped with valves , then U may want to look at a High-Output P.U , such as the DENON DL 103 ( I think )...for speaker cable OFC Copper offcourse.. :)

Vic
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-01-10 11:21 AM (#63311 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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ALPEP : my favorite is the HK

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Have U got an exceedingly good P.U on it , moving-coil perhaps ?

Vic
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alpep
Posted 2008-01-10 11:39 AM (#63312 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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Originally posted by Solid Top aka Enfant Terrible:
ALPEP : my favorite is the HK

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Have U got an exceedingly good P.U on it , moving-coil perhaps ?

Vic
currently using the adc xlm mk II improved.

it works well. probably I should upgrade
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-01-10 12:06 PM (#63313 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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ALPEP : currently using the adc xlm mk II improved.

it works well. probably I should upgrade

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That`s a Fine P.U , I would be thoughtful about upgrading , it`s of utmost importance that the P.U fits the ToneArm , ( stylus-compliance versus ToneArm mass/resonance ..yada yada etc.)
..and Welcome to the nerd-club !! er..Audio - Buffs :)

Vic
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alpep
Posted 2008-01-10 1:09 PM (#63314 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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vic
yes it works fine. I run mostly legacy stuff.
my "bedroom system" is a complete bang and oulfsen beomaster, turntable, cassette, tuner and integrated into bose 901's
I used to run a tandberg but traded that for the B & O

my main system is a little more complex
HK 1000 linear tracking turn table
bic beam box (antennea for the tuner)
furnman power conditioner
tascam 301 cassette mk II
tascam 301 cd player
paragaon tube preamp (made in California in the late seventies very rare and highly sought after)
HK citation II tube amp
Mcintosh mr 67 tube tuner
4 bose 901's with preamp/crossover
crown vfx2a crossover
bsr bass commmode gutter for a 15" jbl for lows
powered by a crown d150a

I am awaiting the arrival of a Lavry DA 10 this is a digital to analog convertor. Everything I have read is positive and this should give a more live feel to the sound. I will report on it when it comes in and I find the time to hook it up.

edited to add that the with any turntable but especially linear tracking and the HK you need to have it perfectly level. what a difference it makes!!!!!!!!
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alpep
Posted 2008-01-10 1:40 PM (#63315 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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oh man the lavry just arrived.
now I have to wait till the adapters arrive
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-01-10 2:01 PM (#63316 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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Originally posted by alpep:
oh man the lavry just arrived.
Boy, that got there quick. ;)
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-01-10 2:22 PM (#63317 - in reply to #63293)
Subject: Re: Turntables


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Al ,

..now that Is an Impressive list , 901`s , so U `re in the Direct/Reflecting game eh , please say that the single speaker points towards U , too often have I seen/heard the opposite , with their owners saying , .." Yeah , I like `em but they sound a little huge " ...mygawd , they`re not 802`s , and U`ve got a Citation II , ( talk about a Humdinger X-tra Ordinaire ) , stuff that dreams are made out of , the very first High Current Amp. ever , and they still make `em according to Matti Ottala`s recipe , but what caught my attention was the word " PARAGON " ..( did U mean Paradigm ? ).. , JBL`s famed Stereo-box , I assume U know what I`m talkin` about , anyways , feast for the eyes and ears...

http://www.vintage-audio.com.ua/en/cat/152/363.html

..and Congrats with that swish " reeking of quality " convertor.. :)

Vic
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