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Nancy
Posted 2015-04-20 4:07 PM (#509060)
Subject: Not to sound stupid, but...



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Can you please explain these two acronyms:

Adamas SMT and CVT, what do they stand for, what is the difference?
I have tried to find the answers, and looked on Ovation Tribute, but just don't understand what they are.

Thank you in advance for your help!
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BanjoJ
Posted 2015-04-20 4:34 PM (#509061 - in reply to #509060)
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I'm not sure what the initials stand for, but in brief:

SMT - Unidirectional
CVT - Cross weave



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Nancy
Posted 2015-04-20 7:27 PM (#509069 - in reply to #509061)
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Thank You Banjo!!
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SOBeach
Posted 2015-04-20 7:35 PM (#509070 - in reply to #509061)
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BanjoJ -I'm not sure what the initials stand for

perhaps...  

SMooth Top

     and

CrossweaVe Top

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Waskel
Posted 2015-04-20 8:09 PM (#509071 - in reply to #509060)
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Doesn't matter... What you really want is a textured top.


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Nancy
Posted 2015-04-20 8:33 PM (#509072 - in reply to #509071)
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Thanks Guys!!

Does the SMT have a wood look to it?
It kind of looks like it in the picture.
Are these Adamas II? Or completely separate Models from the I & II's?
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Nancy
Posted 2015-04-20 8:38 PM (#509073 - in reply to #509071)
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Waskel@Work - 2015-04-20 8:09 PM


Doesn't matter... What you really want is a textured top.




That's what I am getting!!!! A Beautiful Red One!!!!! Mmmmmmm 1687 Red Goodness!!!!!

Edited by Nancy 2015-04-20 8:58 PM
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Waskel
Posted 2015-04-20 9:28 PM (#509074 - in reply to #509072)
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naellis58 - 2015-04-20 6:33 PM

Thanks Guys!!

Does the SMT have a wood look to it?
It kind of looks like it in the picture.
Are these Adamas II? Or completely separate Models from the I & II's?


The SMTs do have a 'woody' look to them, I was told it was due to the CF finishing process. May or may not be true.

They're more like Adamas IIIs, but I think that distinction would have gone to the 'Q' models (there are threads in the archives about them).
Congrats on the 1687 - it's widely believed that the textured tops are (for the most part) sonically superior to the SMT and CVT models. At least until the ME and 2080 models came out. Those are pretty stonkin good, too.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-04-20 9:34 PM (#509075 - in reply to #509074)
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Thank You Waske!

Now... What is an ME????
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Waskel
Posted 2015-04-20 9:42 PM (#509076 - in reply to #509075)
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The Melissa Etheridge models.
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2015-04-20 11:27 PM (#509081 - in reply to #509072)
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naellis58 - 2015-04-20 8:33 PM

Thanks Guys!!

Does the SMT have a wood look to it?
It kind of looks like it in the picture.
Are these Adamas II? Or completely separate Models from the I & II's?


The SMT has a wood like appearance but prettier,its the unidirectional carbon fiber with a killer laquer finish,if you see a ruby red graphite one it does a color change as the light shifts across it,the SMT and CVT both came after the Adamas I or II and are a totally separate catagory.call it the working man's adamas if you will,the ME is a SMT signature model 12 string made for melissa etheridge.



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Nancy
Posted 2015-04-21 8:40 AM (#509084 - in reply to #509081)
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Ok, now I understand it all! Thank You SO much for your help!!

Holy Buckets 2 Wheeldrummer! That is a Beauty!!!! Is it yours??
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d'ovation
Posted 2015-04-21 12:15 PM (#509096 - in reply to #509073)
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naellis58 - 2015-04-20 7:38 PM

That's what I am getting!!!! A Beautiful Red One!!!!! Mmmmmmm 1687 Red Goodness!!!!!

You really are on a OA crusade it seems ... congrats. I actually asked the same question anout different tops some time ago and there may be some more info in older threads on the various top compositions and features. As a result I have beeen looking for a 1687 (RI) for some time, but obviously have not been nearly as diligent as you have been in tracking down the goodies.

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/megabbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=34292&posts=11&start=1



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Beal
Posted 2015-04-21 1:47 PM (#509105 - in reply to #509060)
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That's SMu top
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Nancy
Posted 2015-04-21 3:05 PM (#509114 - in reply to #509105)
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Thank You D'Ovation!

I have been extremely Blessed by Incredible Friends! Tony has been instrumental in teaching me, and letting me Adopt some of his favorite charges!

Thank you for the link - I will go read it too - there are so many different models, tops, etc, I have allot of catching up to do. Before I just loved the guitar and sound, now that I am learning the history, I want to know it all! A Full Appreciation of everything that went/goes into them. In some small way, it makes it feel like it's okay for me to have a few of the really good ones, when I appreciate and know everything that went into them. Anyone can just buy a guitar, but I want to *know* mine.

Thank you Beal! Now what is a SMu top??? That Gorgeous Ruby Shiny one???
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muzza
Posted 2015-04-21 4:47 PM (#509123 - in reply to #509060)
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StandingOvation says that SMT stands for 'sound muffling top'.  I guess he isn't a fan.

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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2015-04-21 5:46 PM (#509127 - in reply to #509060)
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I have to say though, I had a 12-string SMT here in the shop once and it sounded wonderful. The SMT's may not sound as good as a textured top but they still sound better than most guitars. And they are incredibly pretty too.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-04-21 7:21 PM (#509133 - in reply to #509070)
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SOBeach - 2015-04-20 7:35 PM

BanjoJ -I'm not sure what the initials stand for

perhaps...  

SMooth Top

     and

CrossweaVe Top



I got it now!!!

SMT =
Send Me This!

CVT =
Cool! Very Techno!
(And, SMT too!)

Thank You All very much! This has been Very Helpful!!!!!
And now I have seen the "Q" on the FB The Ovation Instruments Page, so I think I am pretty much up to speed on the acronyms!!

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Nancy
Posted 2015-04-21 7:21 PM (#509134 - in reply to #509070)
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Sorry, for some reason, that posted twice....



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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2015-04-21 7:48 PM (#509136 - in reply to #509084)
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naellis58 - 2015-04-21 8:40 AM

Ok, now I understand it all! Thank You SO much for your help!!

Holy Buckets 2 Wheeldrummer! That is a Beauty!!!! Is it yours??


Yes shes mine,I was lucky enough to be picked by patch for the OFC calendar this year and this guitar along with my 12 string legend lx are featured in the month of january,and it sounds as good as it looks.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-04-21 8:04 PM (#509137 - in reply to #509136)
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Congatulations 2WheelDrummer! That is one Gorgeous Guitar!!!
And Congratulations on making the Calendar too!!
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Nancy
Posted 2015-04-22 10:30 AM (#509173 - in reply to #509137)
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And because you all shared your knowledge with me, when I saw this on ebay this morning, I knew exactly what I was looking at!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361276478281?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&s...

I really like that SMT top!!! Thank You all for your help!!
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Patch
Posted 2015-04-22 11:07 AM (#509181 - in reply to #509060)
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Ta-Dah!

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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2015-04-22 10:01 PM (#509234 - in reply to #509173)
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naellis58 - 2015-04-22 8:30 AM

And because you all shared your knowledge with me, when I saw this on ebay this morning, I knew exactly what I was looking at!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361276478281?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&s...

I really like that SMT top!!! Thank You all for your help!!

Action is High.
Broken headstock.
Looks like a crack in the finish by the low E string near bridge.
Needs the frets leveled or replaced.
Has been ridden hard and put away wet.

You could probably reset the neck yourself.
As well as do a better repair on the headstock.
And live with the booboo on the top.
But there are better guitars to spent $900 on. JMHO.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-04-22 10:19 PM (#509236 - in reply to #509234)
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Good Lord you are GOOD Arthur!!!!
I used to be able to do that with horses, but I have a long way to go with the Guitars!!

I am not buying for a while, I just like to keep up on what is out there, and see all the different Ovations I have never seen. There is a Traveler on ebay right now, that I have never seen, even on The Ovation Tribute! Really different looking Little Beastie!

But I am going to have you check over anything I see before I buy one if you don't mind? You really helped me on that Patriot/No Box debacle, and I really appreciate that!!

Tony just sent me a picture of my 3 Adoptees that will be coming in soon, so I have to behave myself for a bit! LOL!!! (well, at least where it comes to Guitars!) I think these 3 will keep me very busy for a while, and I can't wait to hear the 2 Adamas in person, I have never heard one in person!!!
And they are SO Gorgeous!! I think the 1719 CL-30 is probably the most Beautiful non-custom order I have ever seen!

My new babies: 1719 CL-30, 1687-2 Adamas, Millenium Adamas CVT (I know what that means now!!!)

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