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When Did The Shiny Bowl End?

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Bluebird
Posted 2015-07-23 7:01 AM (#513704)
Subject: When Did The Shiny Bowl End?



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Does anyone know what serial number series the shiny bowl guitars ended with? Where there any Cxxx shinys or were they all textured by then?

Wayne
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bobfrith
Posted 2015-07-23 9:42 AM (#513713 - in reply to #513704)
Subject: Re: When Did The Shiny Bowl End?


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Hi Wayne,

There is probably not a definite serial number that defines the change, but Deluxe Balladeer, serial # B-500, is a transition model with a non-inlaid rosette and a factory textured bowl. All of the B-4XX models that I have seen were shiny bowls, and anything after B-500 has been a textured bowl. So, the cutoff for shiny bowls would be somewhere around there, although I'm sure that there were exceptions.

By the time the C+XXX serialization appeared they were all surely textured, along with a few other changes that carried into the early 1970's.

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Bluebird
Posted 2015-07-23 4:21 PM (#513724 - in reply to #513704)
Subject: Re: When Did The Shiny Bowl End?



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Thanks, Bob... I figured you would have it narrowed down to as close as it could be. So, the shinys pretty much ended by very early '69.

Wayne
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2015-07-23 6:28 PM (#513729 - in reply to #513704)
Subject: Re: When Did The Shiny Bowl End?



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Except special orders like the K1111RI and the Full-Bowl Flame 1778T-RF.
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Bluebird
Posted 2015-07-25 9:36 AM (#513746 - in reply to #513729)
Subject: Re: When Did The Shiny Bowl End?



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arthurseery - 2015-07-23 6:28 PM

Except special orders like the K1111RI and the Full-Bowl Flame 1778T-RF.


For sure. Love the shiny bowls!

Wayne
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jbblunck
Posted 2015-07-25 11:18 AM (#513747 - in reply to #513704)
Subject: Re: When Did The Shiny Bowl End?



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I have a Pacemaker 12 string that I bought in 1973/4. I can't say whether or not it had a shiny bowl, but about 15 years later questionable storage had taken its toll on the top and I sent it to Ovation for repairs. They sent back my guitar with a new top and bowl. Definitely my neck though. I noticed at the time that the bowl was much rougher - much like the bowls now. Of course it played (and still plays) beautifully. Did 73 Pacemakers have a shiny bowl? Or were the bowls just smoother, getting progressively rougher over the years? Curious.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2015-07-25 4:12 PM (#513748 - in reply to #513704)
Subject: Re: When Did The Shiny Bowl End?



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I don't know why they stopped making the shiny bowls.
Probably because of people sniveling that the bowl slid-off of their laps.
But, people still said that with the textured bowl... so?

Although I am paranoid about scratching my K1111RI bowl.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2015-07-25 5:12 PM (#513749 - in reply to #513747)
Subject: Re: When Did The Shiny Bowl End?



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jbblunck - Or were the bowls just smoother, getting progressively rougher over the years? Curious.

 

i have a winged bridge 1117 from 1969 (Fxxx) with a textured bowl, and it is a lot smoother than later US guitars, which in turn are smoother than the Korean or Chinese guitars I've had.  So I think you're right.  

 

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