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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-02-24 5:46 PM (#532940 - in reply to #531569)
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They look like trashy guitars to me!
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2017-02-24 6:32 PM (#532941 - in reply to #531569)
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Hey Dan, what type of material did you use for the aluminum brace reinforcements? Similar to the MS?
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-02-24 7:20 PM (#532943 - in reply to #532940)
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moody, p.i. - 2017-02-24 3:46 PM

They look like trashy guitars to me!


Actually, something right up your alley -- dirty laundry. LOL!
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-02-24 7:21 PM (#532944 - in reply to #532941)
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Jonmark Stone - 2017-02-24 4:32 PM

Hey Dan, what type of material did you use for the aluminum brace reinforcements? Similar to the MS?


Not just similar, but MS-sourced.

Edited by DanSavage 2017-02-24 7:22 PM
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-03-05 6:39 PM (#533060 - in reply to #531569)
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I got to a stopping point because I didn't want to use the bankers box any more to route the binding/purfling channels.

It worked well in a pinch, but truth be told it's kind of a pain because it doesn't really hold the guitar securely.

So, I made a crude copy of a fixture used by the MS that I've seen in numerous factory tour videos. Theirs is a lot slicker as it uses vacuum to hold the bowl into place.

But, mine will work pretty well. It secures the bowl into place which will make working on these guitars a lot easier.

The vise is a drill-press vise clamped to the stack of plywood which is in turn, secured to the 3/4" plywood base.

The risers are adjustable, tilting furniture feet.

Here's the 1117 clamped into the fixture.

For guitars like this one which has the neck glued into place, I'm using the Stewmac neck caul on the back of the neck and the Stewmac radiused sanding block on the fingerboard. A C-clamp locks the neck in-between and the neck caul is secured in the drill press vise.

The feet are adjusted as necessary so the bowl is evenly supported.

Now, routing the binding/purfling will be a lot easier. It will also make gluing the binding and purfling a lot easier, too.



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arumako
Posted 2017-03-05 9:52 PM (#533067 - in reply to #531569)
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WOW Dan, that is really a cool jig...gonna have to make me one of those. Would you mind sharing the angle measurements for the three legs? Cool!
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-03-05 10:01 PM (#533068 - in reply to #531569)
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Hi Ken,

I didn't really measure the angles. I used what's known in the model airplane hobby as the TLAR-method. (That Looks About Right)

Here's a link to the levelers I ordered: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01C91KTSU/ref=od_aui_detailpages0...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-03-06 8:22 AM (#533072 - in reply to #531569)
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Getting excited again. Dan, would it be possible, when it's finished, to hook it up to that vibration thingy for a couple of days?
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-03-06 8:04 PM (#533084 - in reply to #531569)
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Hi Paul,

Sure thing. It would be interesting to see if a torrefied top guitar sounds any different before and after it's been in that vibration thingy.

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-03-06 11:35 PM (#533089 - in reply to #531569)
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We'll do a sound test when that time comes, before and after. And it's a cool thingy.

I need to bring over the 1537 so you can hear how it's opened up.

When the Legend is done with the thingy, I'm going to take a day and go up to see Bill X with the 1537 and the Legend. He can see just how good, acoustically, Ovations can sound.
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-03-07 11:57 AM (#533099 - in reply to #531569)
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Sounds good.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-03-07 12:32 PM (#533101 - in reply to #531569)
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Hopefully they will......
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-03-25 3:06 PM (#533400 - in reply to #531569)
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I got the binding/purfling on your guitar today. I'll pull the tape off tomorrow then start scraping it down in preparation for finishing.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-03-25 4:07 PM (#533401 - in reply to #531569)
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Oh boy......
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-03-25 7:59 PM (#533409 - in reply to #531569)
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Yep. I'm back to making progress on your guitar. I'll post a pic once the masking tape is off and I've scraped down the binding/purfling.

FYI, it's got a real nice tap tone. (imagine: kettle drum)

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-03-25 8:35 PM (#533411 - in reply to #531569)
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I"m looking forward to it!

By the way, because of you, I've now got lights (.12-.53) on all my guitars.

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DanSavage
Posted 2017-03-26 6:44 PM (#533424 - in reply to #533411)
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moody, p.i. - 2017-03-25 6:35 PM

I"m looking forward to it!

By the way, because of you, I've now got lights (.12-.53) on all my guitars.


Atta boy!
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-03-28 8:43 PM (#533435 - in reply to #531569)
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I got the binding/purfling scraped down.

I've decided that trying to get all four guitars at once is a little too much work. So, I'm going to concentrate on getting this guitar and the 1528 done. Then, I'll concentrate on the 1612 and the 1778.

So, the next job on this guitar is to mask the bridge and the body/neck and start spraying the primer/sealer.

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-03-28 10:13 PM (#533437 - in reply to #531569)
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That's going to be beautiful when it's finished......
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-03-29 8:42 AM (#533439 - in reply to #531569)
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Yeah. It's got some nice silking.
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DarenSavage
Posted 2017-04-01 3:55 PM (#533503 - in reply to #531569)
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Nice!
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-04-03 7:40 PM (#533520 - in reply to #531569)
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Masking is started.

All masked up. First coat of polyurethane is on. Now, it's time to start building up the base coat in preparation for the final coats. (spray it on, sand it off -- repeat)

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-04-03 8:25 PM (#533521 - in reply to #531569)
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Wow. I'm starting to hear it in my head.....
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-04-03 8:37 PM (#533523 - in reply to #531569)
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Yeah, I think it'll quickly become your favorite guitar to play.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-04-04 9:20 AM (#533530 - in reply to #531569)
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Dan, when you put on the finish coats and then sand them down, are you doing that by hand? And how long does it take?
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