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bobfrith
Posted 2017-02-11 11:07 AM (#532718 - in reply to #532717)
Subject: Re: #60 Josh White


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Dan, obviously this is not a zero fret, but that terminology was used as, to my knowledge, there is no other name for the extended fretboard.
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jay
Posted 2017-02-11 11:50 AM (#532720 - in reply to #532702)
Subject: RE: #60 Josh White



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Bob, thanks for clearing up the story behind 291. I saw it for sale by Dream guitars a while ago and wondered what had happened to it, as the bridge and bowl appeared not to be original. Wayne Reid said that the top was, as he had seen an early picture of the guitar and it had the same figuring above the soundhole as this guitar. Here are some more pics...





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Beal
Posted 2017-02-11 2:46 PM (#532723 - in reply to #531939)
Subject: Re: #60 Josh White



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Well, no doubt made for Josh. Rickard signed the table. Undoubtedly when it came in for repair the service dept said "Oh we'll up grade this to how we do it now, It's better anyway" It looks like a radiused fingerboard. Rickard would have been the one to add the snowflakes. A cool little touch.

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Geostorm98
Posted 2017-02-11 3:30 PM (#532725 - in reply to #532723)
Subject: Re: #60 Josh White



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Beal - 2017-02-11 3:46 PM Well, no doubt made for Josh. Rickard signed the table. Undoubtedly when it came in for repair the service dept said "Oh we'll up grade this to how we do it now, It's better anyway" It looks like a radiused fingerboard. Rickard would have been the one to add the snowflakes. A cool little touch.

Yup, my Dad's  '67 #691 Deluxe Balladeer popped the bridge...they upgraded it from rosewood to walnut At least they kept the 5 point shape.

This was around 1970 or so...these days first thing any Ovation expert points out on seeing the guitar is "That is not the original bridge!!"

Sigh...even thought that bridge has been on there for 47 years, it is non-original!



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jay
Posted 2017-02-11 4:36 PM (#532727 - in reply to #532725)
Subject: Re: #60 Josh White



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What I thought was neat was that the model name was signed the same way the headstock is. nice touch.

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Bluebird
Posted 2017-02-11 11:00 PM (#532734 - in reply to #532727)
Subject: Re: #60 Josh White



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jay - 2017-02-11 4:36 PM

What I thought was neat was that the model name was signed the same way the headstock is. nice touch.



Beal, did Josh not actually sign the Labels on the earliest JW's, same as this one of his?

Wayne
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Beal
Posted 2017-02-12 9:18 AM (#532735 - in reply to #531939)
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no, i really don't think so
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jay
Posted 2017-02-12 10:07 AM (#532736 - in reply to #532734)
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Wayne...Wouldn't that have been cool...that each JW would have his autograph on the label...but it looks like he had some help...

 



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Love O Fair
Posted 2017-02-12 5:04 PM (#532747 - in reply to #531939)
Subject: Re: #60 Josh White



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On the fingernail topic.. we own a salon that my wife runs. I like to call the manicurist section the "body and fender department" since it often smells like it and they use a lot of the same-type materials and techniques, just in a much smaller version. Anyway, I've been forever amazed at what some of these girls can do to accommodate peoples' practical nail needs, including a handful of string instrument players as clients over the years (male and female) who have their nails done in custom configuration to suit their own picking/plucking/pressing style and to spare damage to their instruments. If you finger pickers want something that looks and feels natural, but still holds up like steel, any given [experienced] manicurist will surely be able to outfit you with dialed in pro service tailored to your own playing style and you won't be walking around with clumps on your fingertips. On subsequent visits they will also be able to read the wear pattern and know how to properly fortify it for ongoing usage.

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Beal
Posted 2017-02-12 5:17 PM (#532749 - in reply to #531939)
Subject: Re: #60 Josh White



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Davis used to get Solar Nails. I tried them once and they worked well
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Love O Fair
Posted 2017-02-12 6:09 PM (#532750 - in reply to #531939)
Subject: Re: #60 Josh White



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@Beal -->Davis used to get Solar Nails. I tried them once and they worked well<--

Yep. That's what I was talking about. "Solar" was originally a trademark brand name, but has since become a generic term for many acrylic-type nail applications. What Dan was saying about his own, home-style silk wrap application is also done by the pros, but not as strong as acrylic (and 7 layers.. wow.. that's what I meant by "clumps"). Acrylics (solar) are definitely the way to go for thin/natural-appearing, durability, and are best for specific shaping to suit particular needs like string instrument playing or daily computer keyboard typing that takes a quick toll on natural nails. Not just for pretty ladies.. here are lots of fingernail scenarios that most people would never even think of, yet greatly affect the daily lives of the people who use their nails for.. whatever. There was even a baseball pitcher once (back in the 70's.. can't remember his name) who was using natural-appearing acrylic nails for amazing ball control that his own nails would have never held up for, but when they discovered it they made him stop since it was ruled along the same lines as using any other foreign substance on the ball. Fortunately, there are no umpires in guitar (unless you count critics.. lol).

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jay
Posted 2017-02-13 10:50 AM (#532755 - in reply to #532750)
Subject: Re: #60 Josh White



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I hate to steer this away from the beauty salon aspect, but I found a facebook post that indicated the Rock and Roll HOF in Cleveland had one of Josh's Ovations. I wrote to ask if this was correct and if so, could we have some pics...their response... 

We do have an Ovation guitar played by Josh White here at the museum, but it is currently in storage, not on display. Unfortunately, I am not permitted to provide you with photos of the guitar, as it is not owned by the museum but on loan to us from the estate. My apologies!

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Bluebird
Posted 2017-02-13 8:48 PM (#532757 - in reply to #531939)
Subject: Re: #60 Josh White



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Dang... that would have been interesting to see. It might be that first one.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2017-02-13 10:38 PM (#532758 - in reply to #532757)
Subject: Re: #60 Josh White


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Sad to see something given on loan to a museum only to be hidden from the public.
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Beal
Posted 2017-03-17 12:16 PM (#533271 - in reply to #531939)
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As to the rosette, I brought out #36 today and lo and behold it has that special rosette, like the picture of Josh and CHK. By #60 they had changed. #36 is a std Balladeer.
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