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MarkM
Posted 2017-02-15 2:37 PM (#532778)
Subject: Some G Strings are a pain in the a**


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Specifically, I've got a 12 string that keeps unraveling the octave G at the ball end.

It's happened to 8, 9, & 7 gage strings.

The guitar is a modified (fan-fret) Pacemaker. The bass E string scale length is the standard 25.25", and the treble E is 24.6", so all but the bass E's should have lower tension than standard.

What feature of a bridge could cause this? What else?

I'm thinking of getting brass ferrules for wire fishing leaders, or hypodermic tubing , to crimp on the wrapped area the octave G to stabilize it. Any other ideas? I'm in OMA's neighborhood for a few days, so maybe he can direct me to a tackle shop. :-)

Cheers, M^2
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2017-02-15 4:12 PM (#532781 - in reply to #532778)
Subject: Re: Some G Strings are a pain in the a**



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Crazy Glue. Then String Tubes.

Tackle Shops

Edited by Old Man Arthur 2017-02-15 4:15 PM
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numbfingers
Posted 2017-02-15 4:51 PM (#532782 - in reply to #532778)
Subject: RE: Some G Strings are a pain in the a**


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Mark-

Arthur might want you to think he's living in a van, down by the Willamette, busking in the Park Blocks, and eating government cheese- but really he's a Google bot, raking in big bucks for saavy investors.  The link he provided led me to the West Marine in Port Townsend, maybe because I was there yesterday.  Perhaps you'll have to ask Old Bot Arthur for better directions. 

-Steve W.

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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2017-02-15 5:07 PM (#532783 - in reply to #532778)
Subject: Re: Some G Strings are a pain in the a**



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Oooh... I guess that is because of your location.
When I click the link it shows me the Tackle Shops in Portland.
So, Mark... You might want to set the location of your computer or smart phone to Portland if you are in Portland.
Also... All of the tackle shops are in the suburbs, cuz nobody really fishes in the Willamette River.
HERE is one a coupla miles north of Alberta.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2017-02-15 5:10 PM (#532784 - in reply to #532778)
Subject: Re: Some G Strings are a pain in the a**



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Also... I don't own a van, I don't play in the Park Blocks.
And I don't think that there is any more Government Cheese.
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numbfingers
Posted 2017-02-15 6:40 PM (#532787 - in reply to #532778)
Subject: RE: Some G Strings are a pain in the a**


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I used to work down by the river for UO, I think it was called the Willamette Block building. I'd walk around the Park Blocks at lunch time. Not many people there in those days, and the Pearl District was still just old warehouses. Chris Farley was living in a van, down by the river, eating government cheese way back in '93, so I guess that's gone along with him: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/motivational-speaker/n...



-Steve W.
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2017-02-15 6:46 PM (#532788 - in reply to #532778)
Subject: Re: Some G Strings are a pain in the a**



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What brand of strings are you using,maybe try a different brand,I had a 6 string that had problems with the g-string tried another brand and it solved the problem.
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nerdydave
Posted 2017-02-15 11:35 PM (#532792 - in reply to #532778)
Subject: Re: Some G Strings are a pain in the a**


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I can testify that OMA lives in Portland and busks downtown for on a magic day once upon a time I had the pleasure of busking with that fine gentleman!!
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Darkbar
Posted 2017-02-16 9:07 AM (#532794 - in reply to #532778)
Subject: Re: Some G Strings are a pain in the a**



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Until you've seen OMA busking on the Portland streets wearing nothing but a G-string, you haven't seen nothin' (talk about government cheese....)

Edited by Darkbar 2017-02-16 9:08 AM
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numbfingers
Posted 2017-02-16 9:34 AM (#532795 - in reply to #532778)
Subject: RE: Some G Strings are a pain in the a**


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Mark-

Since I derailed the thread, I'll try to get back on track.

I wonder if strings made for shredding trem-wankers might be less likely to unwind? I was thinking of Fender Bullets with the solid end: http://www2.fender.com/experience/tech-talk/fender-bullets-strings/

I'm not sure if those are available individually. Maybe there's some other plain string with a heavy-duty end.

Anything special about your bridge?

-Steve W.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2017-02-16 11:24 AM (#532798 - in reply to #532778)
Subject: Re: Some G Strings are a pain in the a**


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Are they D'Addario's? I've had problems with their G strings on my 6 string guitars. The green ferrules bend and the strings slip off or cut right through the ferrule.
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360Ovation
Posted 2017-02-16 11:47 AM (#532799 - in reply to #532778)
Subject: Re: Some G Strings are a pain in the a**


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If you own a soldering iron, try adding a little solder to the wind to stabilize it/"glue" it together. Might work better than super glue. Heat up the string with the iron, then let the solder flow onto it. It shouldn't take much to hold it.
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numbfingers
Posted 2017-02-16 12:25 PM (#532800 - in reply to #532799)
Subject: Re: Some G Strings are a pain in the a**


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Soldering seems like a good idea, I didn't know people did that. Here's a video (I didn't watch it): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5X2lx81VzI

You could get some cheap single strings to try it. Don't use acid core solder or acid flux.
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Nancy
Posted 2017-02-16 1:00 PM (#532803 - in reply to #532794)
Subject: Re: Some G Strings are a pain in the a**



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Darkbar - 2017-02-16 9:07 AM

Until you've seen OMA busking on the Portland streets wearing nothing but a G-string, you haven't seen nothin' (talk about government cheese....)


MarkM, that is one of the Best Thread Subject Lines I have ever seen!! LOL!!! Thank Goodness, it was actually about Guitar Strings, you never know what these guys will post pictures of.... .

Great comeback Darkbar!
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MarkM
Posted 2017-02-16 8:54 PM (#532810 - in reply to #532803)
Subject: Re: Some G Strings are a pain in the a**


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Nancy - 2017-02-16 1:00 PM

MarkM, that is one of the Best Thread Subject Lines I have ever seen!! LOL!!! Thank Goodness, it was actually about...


I debated posting directly to the Bottom Feeders Luthiery Guild.

My sense of humor works at the speed of Bulletin Boards.

I am living in a small van, and my soldering irons are 600 miles away, in storage.

The good news is that I found D'Addario single 8's - three blocks from me - and bought the 3 that they had. I bought .047" fishing leader ferrules, and some gel style super glue. I glued one ferrule nearest the bead, after some on the windings. Then, a second ferrule - that covers the end of the windings. So far so good!

And today, I think I found the real solution: Ernie Ball "reinforced" RPS strings. $6 for 6. Find the huge graphic and click on it.

https://www.ernieball.com/guitar-strings/electric-guitar-strings/ele...
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2017-02-16 10:45 PM (#532814 - in reply to #532778)
Subject: Re: Some G Strings are a pain in the a**



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Ooo! I had went to Apple Music Row (now defunct) and bought all of their .008 and .009 just cuz I can break a bunch of High "g" strings....
So, those Ernie Ball might be good to get for spares.

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