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FlySig
Posted 2019-02-10 7:57 PM (#546991 - in reply to #537044)
Subject: Re: How To: Replace OCP-1K Bridge Saddle...



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On the 1537 I detect no difference in tone. That's the white saddle. The black saddle in the Adamas 2080 sounds the same to me, maybe a bit more clarity on the B and E strings. The strings are at their end of life so it is difficult to say for sure on the Adamas, but it sounds the same or better tone wise.

The intonation is vastly improved. I haven't put a tuner to it to check it precisely, but it sounds great. I used to tune the B string ever so slightly flat, and the low E string about 1/8th step flat so that it would play in tune when fretted. For different keys I would sometimes tune it differently from that. And with a capo I always had to flat the 6th string. No more. I tuned both guitars right on pitch with open strings and they sound in tune with all the different songs I usually play.
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DanSavage
Posted 2019-02-10 9:57 PM (#546992 - in reply to #546991)
Subject: Re: How To: Replace OCP-1K Bridge Saddle...



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FlySig - 2019-02-10 5:57 PM

On the 1537 I detect no difference in tone. That's the white saddle. The black saddle in the Adamas 2080 sounds the same to me, maybe a bit more clarity on the B and E strings. The strings are at their end of life so it is difficult to say for sure on the Adamas, but it sounds the same or better tone wise.

The intonation is vastly improved. I haven't put a tuner to it to check it precisely, but it sounds great. I used to tune the B string ever so slightly flat, and the low E string about 1/8th step flat so that it would play in tune when fretted. For different keys I would sometimes tune it differently from that. And with a capo I always had to flat the 6th string. No more. I tuned both guitars right on pitch with open strings and they sound in tune with all the different songs I usually play.


It sounds like your impressions are the same as mine.

Enjoy!
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BCam
Posted 2019-02-11 10:22 AM (#546995 - in reply to #537044)
Subject: Re: How To: Replace OCP-1K Bridge Saddle...


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Thanks for the video, it's going to be a big help once my saddle arrives. I probably would have tried to pull out the excess silicone.
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DarenSavage
Posted 2019-02-16 3:41 PM (#547042 - in reply to #537044)
Subject: Re: How To: Replace OCP-1K Bridge Saddle...


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I installed my new saddle this morning. Wow! What a difference it makes. I'll upgrade Darth Ovation this afternoon.
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DanSavage
Posted 2019-02-17 2:25 PM (#547053 - in reply to #537044)
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Congratulations!
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2019-02-17 3:46 PM (#547054 - in reply to #537044)
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Just ordered 3.
Now you can send your kids to college.
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DanSavage
Posted 2019-02-17 4:03 PM (#547055 - in reply to #547054)
Subject: Re: How To: Replace OCP-1K Bridge Saddle...



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Jonmark Stone - 2019-02-17 1:46 PM

Just ordered 3.
Now you can send your kids to college.


Thanks!

Pffft... They're on their own. I'm retiring to the islands.

Woo hoo!
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BCam
Posted 2019-02-18 7:19 PM (#547068 - in reply to #537044)
Subject: Re: How To: Replace OCP-1K Bridge Saddle...


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I received the black saddle for my 1624 Country Artist and just finished installing it. I like the way the black looks. I can't say that I detect a noticeable difference in tone. At first I was disappointed in the intonation, until I discovered I'd installed the new saddle backwards! Intonation is within 0 to 5 "cents" at frets 3, 5, 7 and 12 except for the G string, which is +10 at the 7th and +15 at the 12th. It was the worst string with the old saddle as well and, overall, the numbers were somewhat better with the new saddle. I noted that finger position/pressure could result in 2.5 cents variation from test to test. I confess that I don't know what's good or bad in terms of cents but my ear isn't sensitive to detect anything objectionable. In any case, I don't spend that much time beyond the 5th fret anyway. My strings are still settling in after being loosened so I'll check again in a day or so.

In general, the G, B and high E, purely nylon, strings had the highest variation. I'm wondering if this has something to do with the new saddle having been designed for steel strings aside from the elimination of the radius.

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BCam
Posted 2019-03-08 10:16 AM (#547270 - in reply to #537044)
Subject: Re: How To: Replace OCP-1K Bridge Saddle...


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I re-checked the intonation on my Country Artist now that my strings have re-settled in. The results are much better now. I just checked the 12th fret and all strings are within 0 to 5 "cents" except the high E which shifts between +5 and +10 depending on my finger position. In any case it's nothing I'm going to ever notice. This guitar was a CL purchase last summer and I haven't touched the set-up.

I really like the look of the black saddle. Thanks for doing this.
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Tom The Piddler
Posted 2019-03-21 12:36 PM (#547433 - in reply to #537044)
Subject: Re: How To: Replace OCP-1K Bridge Saddle...



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Location: Cass County, Texas
From: Your Shapeways order is now on its way!

2 x Ovation OCP-1K Fully-Compensated Saddle in Black Professional Plastic

Dan, your video will be a big help. I have some repair work to do when I install one of them. The other will be a spare.

My Ovation is a "1759", 1995 version (sr# 498575), with a natural finish.

I picked it up last year at a local pawn shop along with its hardshell case. It needs some work, especially where the top has split (came unglued?), exactly where the matched sides meet.

Will update when I finish the repair in about 2 weeks. (I am slow)


Edited by Tom The Piddler 2019-03-21 12:38 PM
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clrules
Posted 2019-04-16 9:58 AM (#547717 - in reply to #537044)
Subject: Re: How To: Replace OCP-1K Bridge Saddle...


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Location: Birmingham, AL
Really cool stuff. The black would look great on my black guitar. May have to get a couple of these.....
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