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| I can't find a single video of the 1719-30cm online, and I love the way this 1619 sounds: https://youtu.be/0QcnbJdsh3s
Can anyone comment on how the 1719 would compare? |
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Location: SoCal | Hard to tell. I would guess that the CL in that video is being played thru it's p/u. It has chorus added? I had a 30th CL. Beautiful guitar but I sold it and kept my 87 Collectors because the 87C had more bass. The CL was very even from top to bottom. Nothing wrong with that. I just liked the 87C a bit more and one of them had to go. |
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| I've always wondered if you can tell anything about how a guitar will sound in real life based on the typical youtube video, and especially how two guitars will compare to each other. There are so many variables involved, the recording technique, quality of recording equipment, environment, etc., not to mention what equipment the listener is using. I certainly wouldn't base any conclusions on the results of the typical, amateur Youtuber's video.
I always get a kick out of the videos that advertise themselves as a "review" but consist of nothing but someone strumming madly on a guitar with little or no commentary.
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Location: Muenster/Germany | I had several 1619s, 1719s over the years, and I had one of these 1719-30s.
I must say that I use to play very light strings. The old 1619 for me was the best sounding, maybe one of the best sounding acoustic guitars ever. The 1719 was ok but I disliked the v-Neck.
My 1719-30 was the most beautiful of them all,but I don´t know what was wrong, I was so disappointed from the sound that I sold it. Maybe the guitar was over-braced? Or over-laquered? It had not the typical soft room-filling soung of a CL, I had to bring much more force on the strings to get the top moving. IMHO the best CL are the pre-K-bar 1619s, but that´s absolutely subjective. |
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| <p>Are all 1619s non-K-bar? And are all 1719s K-bar?</p><p> </p><p>Or is the TRC the giveaway wether it's K-bar (no TRC) or non-K-bar (TRC present)?</p>
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Location: Muenster/Germany | Any old Ovation with a TRC has no K-bar. The trussrod screw on a k-bar is positioned on the heels side of the neck. But- the k-bar necks are very good guitar necks!
I´m not sure if Adamas guitars with a TRC ans a set neck have a (kind of) k-bar. HEY and I thought I would know everything about Ovations...
The only reason why the older (pre-k-bar) models may sound different could be the quality of the top woods used for them, and I think the early bowls were a bit lighter, too.
The k-bar necks are the most stable and the easiest adjustable guitar necks ever made, though. Too bad many of them have a distict V-shape, that´s not comfortable to play for me. I had to part with a stellar sounding Adamas guitar because of that. |
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Location: Canada | DetlefMichel - 2019-09-27 5:17 AM I´m not sure if Adamas guitars with a TRC ans a set neck have a (kind of) k-bar. HEY and I thought I would know everything about Ovations... I think that the K-bar was one of the innovations of the Adamas that then about 5 years later in the early 80s was applied to all Ovations. Then in the early 2000s the LX necks were introduced, and this technology eventually made its way into Adamas as well. So if it's a 1687GT with a TRC then it likely has a LX neck. I don't think there were any Adamas with set neck as this seems to be a feature of the Asian built guitars (and the new "Californian"). |
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Location: moline,illinois | d'ovation - 2019-09-27 10:42 AM
I don't think there were any Adamas with set neck as this seems to be a feature of the Asian built guitars (and the new "Californian").
I know of at least one Adamas with a set neck,I recently got a 2011 Adamas 2088GT 12 string and was surprised to find it has a set neck and high action unfortunately,it will be soon be going to the New Mini-Mothership for work.
WRT 1619 vs 1719 the different model number are because of different preamps 1619 has stacked vol/tone and 1719 has newer OP series the change to Kbar occurred about 1982 I believe so if you want earlier neck go 70's
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Location: Oklahoma City | A tasty topic. The 1719-30cm is the crown jewel (though this one has been a closet queen and hasn't fully opened up.
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How does the tone of a 1719-30cm compare to a '70s 1619 CL?
