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ProfessorBB
Posted 2021-01-16 1:48 PM (#554773 - in reply to #554738)
Subject: Re: What am I missing.... Ovations sound ...not that good?



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I miss the old days when all of the discussion topics sort of went this route.
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Darkbar
Posted 2021-01-16 4:22 PM (#554774 - in reply to #554738)
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"Juiced"???? Isn't that a prison term???
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seesquare
Posted 2021-01-16 4:33 PM (#554775 - in reply to #554738)
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And, you are aware of that term, how?
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tpa
Posted 2021-01-16 5:24 PM (#554776 - in reply to #554738)
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Waskel, Darkbar Happy new year, all.
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Weaser P
Posted 2021-01-16 6:55 PM (#554777 - in reply to #554775)
Subject: Re: What am I missing.... Ovations sound ...not that good?


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Darkbar - 2021-01-16 4:22 PM

"Juiced"???? Isn't that a prison term???


seesquare - 2021-01-16 4:33 PM

And, you are aware of that term, how?


dB is RESPONSIBLE for that term.
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Weaser P
Posted 2021-01-16 8:04 PM (#554778 - in reply to #554738)
Subject: Re: What am I missing.... Ovations sound ...not that good?


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Seesquare, I trust you’ve heard of the “Godfather”?

dB was working up the line but never got to the top shelf.

Meet the “Great Aunt”.
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nerdydave
Posted 2021-01-16 11:05 PM (#554779 - in reply to #554738)
Subject: Re: What am I missing.... Ovations sound ...not that good?


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What is life without levity??
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BanjoJ
Posted 2021-01-17 3:50 AM (#554780 - in reply to #554779)
Subject: Re: What am I missing.... Ovations sound ...not that good?



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nerdydave - 2021-01-17 2:05 PM

What is life without levity??

... and right now levity is what the world needs!
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seesquare
Posted 2021-01-17 7:50 AM (#554781 - in reply to #554738)
Subject: Re: What am I missing.... Ovations sound ...not that good?


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Levity & levitation. Rise above, assuredly.
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cliff
Posted 2021-01-17 9:20 AM (#554782 - in reply to #554738)
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SomeThings NeverChange . . .
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2021-01-17 9:31 AM (#554783 - in reply to #554782)
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cliff - 2021-01-17 7:20 AM

SomeThings NeverChange . . .

Actually, we were pretty nice to him. There was good info mixed in with the fun....
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Darkbar
Posted 2021-01-17 4:16 PM (#554785 - in reply to #554777)
Subject: Re: What am I missing.... Ovations sound ...not that good?



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Weaser P - 2021-01-16 7:55 PM

Darkbar - 2021-01-16 4:22 PM

"Juiced"???? Isn't that a prison term???


seesquare - 2021-01-16 4:33 PM

And, you are aware of that term, how?


dB is RESPONSIBLE for that term.


True, but to be fair, I thought a warm shower sounded so nice and relaxing...
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seesquare
Posted 2021-01-17 7:19 PM (#554786 - in reply to #554785)
Subject: Re: What am I missing.... Ovations sound ...not that good?


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Any rejoinder I can devise is off-color, so "okay"............
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standing
Posted 2021-01-17 7:45 PM (#554787 - in reply to #554738)
Subject: Re: What am I missing.... Ovations sound ...not that good?



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OP has (had?) been a member since 2015, yet only noticed wisecracking/sarcastic comments mixed in with useful suggestions in… 2021?

We’ve lost our touch (and our hearing.)
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Love O Fair
Posted 2021-01-17 8:22 PM (#554788 - in reply to #554738)
Subject: Re: What am I missing.... Ovations sound ...not that good?



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@ProfessorBB - >>>What am I missing.... Ovations sound ...not that good?<<<

Sound quality opinions aside.. they do have a very intriguing look when viewed them from behind.
(though not to be confused with the aforementioned prison lingo)
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leonardmccoy
Posted 2021-01-18 1:07 AM (#554790 - in reply to #554738)
Subject: Re: What am I missing.... Ovations sound ...not that good?



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When recording I have noticed that you get the best results when you mic up your high-end Ovation acoustic for one channel and use the signal output of the preamp for the other. This way you get an impressive mix of both worlds, a very bold acoustic sound on the one hand and the immediacy and a strong, even signal of the preamp on the other.

Too often, even in professional live recordings, only the preamp output is used and not very proficiently, resulting in either a very quacky sound (usually associated with undersaddle pickups) or an overly remodeled sound engineered after the fact and sounding indistinguishable to an electric guitar (think Telecaster).

For an excellent use of an Ovation in a recording setting see Cat Stevens's "Wild World."

Modern undersaddle pickups and preamp systems (I am mostly referring to L.R. Baggs systems here) do sound decidedly more "acoustic" out of the box (but far from perfect), and I would prefer those over the admittedly now antiquated pickup and preamp system still used basically unchanged by Ovation from their heydays in the seventies.

Recording acoustic guitars well, especially in a live setting, is something that still leaves a lot to be desired for no matter on which side of the aisle you stand (Ovation fan or not) or which equipment you use. I will never forget Eric Clapton expressing his dissatisfaction with his live acoustic sound not sounding acoustic enough on a recent concert of his.



Edited by leonardmccoy 2021-01-18 1:32 AM
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2021-01-18 2:28 PM (#554791 - in reply to #554764)
Subject: Re: What am I missing.... Ovations sound ...not that good?


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Juiced - 2021-01-16 4:00 AM To all of the people that I have helped and that have helped me on this site, Good Luck, Stay safe and keep playing. To the others that waste time "trying to be funny" ...grow up. Later.


Cool... I wasn't trying to be funny, soooo  I don't have to grow up !!!

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Beal
Posted 2021-01-18 2:35 PM (#554792 - in reply to #554738)
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the dates on all these posts are wrong! They all look recent. This is from years ago, where childish comments were a contest.

As it has been said.........Holy Buckets Batman! Dew-spew

Edited by Beal 2021-01-18 2:36 PM
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2021-01-20 5:49 PM (#554823 - in reply to #554792)
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Beal -

Holy Buckets Batman! Dew-spew

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2021-01-20 5:58 PM (#554824 - in reply to #554792)
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Beal - 2021-01-18 12:35 PM

where childish comments were a contest.

As it has been said.........Holy Buckets Batman! Dew-spew


We have a winner!
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Beal
Posted 2021-01-20 6:34 PM (#554826 - in reply to #554738)
Subject: Re: What am I missing.... Ovations sound ...not that good?



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Dew-Spew
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seesquare
Posted 2021-01-21 9:05 AM (#554830 - in reply to #554738)
Subject: Re: What am I missing.... Ovations sound ...not that good?


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That should be submitted for Oxford Dictionary inclusion!
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Onur
Posted 2021-01-21 10:15 AM (#554832 - in reply to #554738)
Subject: Re: What am I missing.... Ovations sound ...not that good?


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If you are a bedroom player like I am, you may find the room geometry and furniture impacts the sound considerably. For example, I find having a carpet in the room results in a warmer sound. There is more bass when the amp is at a corner.

Obviously the guitar and hardware has the most impact to the sound. But adding a carpet or moving the amp in the room may sometimes help and it is easier than changing gear.

Edit: Oops! did not realize he is gone. Maybe too much juice was the reason for not getting the best sound.

Edited by Onur 2021-01-21 10:24 AM
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2021-01-21 8:53 PM (#554836 - in reply to #554738)
Subject: Re: What am I missing.... Ovations sound ...not that good?


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There are people who don't like the way Ovation's sound. That's fine.
I, personally, don't care for Gibson or Larrivee acoustics.
To each his own.
That's what I'd say to the OP if he'd stuck around.
Now it's just us again.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2021-01-21 9:28 PM (#554838 - in reply to #554738)
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I've learned that I sound the same no matter what I play (kinda crappy). I think most people do. So you play whatever makes you happy, and if it makes you happy, then it's a great guitar......
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