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oracle928
Posted 2022-09-20 3:23 PM (#557735)
Subject: Truss rod socket wrench for 1112


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Hi all - just got an 1112 from 1974 and looking for an appropriate socket wrench to adjust the truss rod. I have a Musicnomad 1/4" wrench, but it doesn't fit.

What is the correct size and where can I get one? I searched the forums and it looks like it may be 3/16"?

Thanks!
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DanSavage
Posted 2022-09-20 5:01 PM (#557736 - in reply to #557735)
Subject: Re: Truss rod socket wrench for 1112



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3/16"
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seesquare
Posted 2022-09-20 5:20 PM (#557738 - in reply to #557735)
Subject: Re: Truss rod socket wrench for 1112


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Congrats. Go slow. Doesn't usually take much adjustment, if the action is close.
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DanSavage
Posted 2022-09-20 6:46 PM (#557739 - in reply to #557736)
Subject: Re: Truss rod socket wrench for 1112



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Wait. The OEM TR nut on an 1112 should be 1/4".

I just checked my wrenches and they're 1/4"

Keep in mind that someone may have changed it out. Also, the wrench/nut driver needs to be extremely thin-walled to fit into the notch.
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oracle928
Posted 2022-09-20 7:02 PM (#557740 - in reply to #557739)
Subject: Re: Truss rod socket wrench for 1112


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I'll check it again. Do you know where I can get a 3/16" socket wrench in the event someone did change it out? I looked all over and only see 5/16", 7mm and 1/4".
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seesquare
Posted 2022-09-20 8:43 PM (#557741 - in reply to #557740)
Subject: Re: Truss rod socket wrench for 1112


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Hold it. Are we talking about an Allen wrench or a socket wrench?
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oracle928
Posted 2022-09-20 9:09 PM (#557742 - in reply to #557741)
Subject: Re: Truss rod socket wrench for 1112


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Socket wrench
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seesquare
Posted 2022-09-21 7:25 AM (#557743 - in reply to #557742)
Subject: Re: Truss rod socket wrench for 1112


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You should be able to get a 3/16" socket at Lowes:
https://www.lowes.com/search?searchTerm=3%2F16%22+socket&sortMet...
As to whether it is narrow enough for the trussrod channel, you will have to measure it.
Also found this nut driver at Lowes: TEKTON 3/16-in x 7-1/2-in Nut Driver
Item #1953254

Model #26862-D
Best of luck!
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Love O Fair
Posted 2022-09-22 12:09 AM (#557746 - in reply to #557735)
Subject: Re: Truss rod socket wrench for 1112



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Going with a 1/4" drive wrench on a 3/16" socket will also provide a straight and slim outer diameter size all the way up and down the socket for possibly a better angle and clearance into the headstock slot (in comparison to a 3/8" wrench drive that graduates from wide to narrow on that small of a socket) . Using an extension or deep socket could also aid with clearance for the width of the wrench head near the wood.
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seesquare
Posted 2022-09-22 11:38 AM (#557751 - in reply to #557746)
Subject: Re: Truss rod socket wrench for 1112


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That's why I thought the nutdriver was a good option. May not have the necessary torque for the trussrod tension, though.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2022-09-22 3:28 PM (#557754 - in reply to #557735)
Subject: Re: Truss rod socket wrench for 1112



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@seesquare - >>>May not have the necessary torque for the trussrod tension, though.<<<

I thought that, too. But I guess that's where pliers could come in. No, not on the nut, but on the handle of the nut driver. Crank that baby! One of those low ball things you don't really want to do in front of anyone.. but it works.
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seesquare
Posted 2022-09-22 8:53 PM (#557757 - in reply to #557754)
Subject: Re: Truss rod socket wrench for 1112


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Al, that's why this discussion venue is termed "bottomfeeders", though some of our number utilize more precise & sophisticated methods! I like to rationalize the shadetree approach as "expedient". That's my story, & I'm stickin'-to-it.
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DetlefMichel
Posted 2022-09-30 5:27 AM (#557774 - in reply to #557735)
Subject: Re: Truss rod socket wrench for 1112



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Never forget to first add a drop of penetrating oil and let it work for a couple of minutes before you try to move an old trussrod and then first open it a bit. Trussrods are often rusty. When I get an old guitar I always varefully remove the trussrod nuts, clean and grease them and try to clean the screw a good as possible, too. Sometimes I add a washer so that the nut will hopefully remain better moveable.
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