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FlySig
Posted 2007-05-15 7:58 PM (#100058)
Subject: Hohner G3T headless guitar



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I pretty desperately need (well, that's my story) a very small and light guitar to take on the airplane with me (I drive airplanes for a living). The Hohner G3t looks like a pretty good candidate. It looks quite portable, plus it can be used for performances.

Another candidate would be one of the Traveler brand guitars. Very very light, and as small as the Hohner. But it really isn't a gigable instrument. Steinberger looks interesting but too expensive.

So, has anyone played a Hohner G3T? What's your opinion of their feel? Is the intonation good?

This will probably be a blind purchase of a used guitar off of fleabay, so your honest opinions will help.
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lanaki
Posted 2007-05-15 8:56 PM (#100059 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar


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Originally posted by FlySig:
(I drive airplanes for a living).
do you actually take off and land in them too? ;)
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Beal
Posted 2007-05-15 10:07 PM (#100060 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar



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That's the hard part, Lanaki, the flying is the easy part.
A good landing they all walk away from, a great landing and the plane is reusable too.
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foyle
Posted 2007-05-15 10:15 PM (#100061 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar


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I have a G3T, Its easy to play except the first volume control sometimes interferes particularly when strumming. I find the intonation right on and with the steinberger hardware, mine stays in tune even when using the whammy bar.

For the price (I paid a little over 300 for mine) you cant go wrong. This summer I am packing the GT3 and a Martin backpacker in a hardshell double rifle case when I go away for two weeks, that way I can practice acoustic and electric with a setup that takes less room than 1 full guitar.
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alpep
Posted 2007-05-15 10:20 PM (#100062 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar


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the hohner is ok
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FlySig
Posted 2007-05-15 10:42 PM (#100063 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar



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Originally posted by cwk2:

A good landing they all walk away from, a great landing and the plane is reusable too.
It turns out that a firmer landing puts less wear on the tires than a sweet gentle landing. With cost control being what it is these days, I do my best to make every landing a money saving landing! Yup, that's me, the company man, pounding on the landings to save the company money.

Nobody said anything about having to use the airplane again, just don't wear out the tires.
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numbfingers
Posted 2007-05-15 10:55 PM (#100064 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar


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I used to have a Steinberger-licensed Cort like the one in current eBay auction 200108414388. No trem so it stayed perfectly in tune and instead of the flip-out thingamabob it has indentations so it can rest on your leg. They usually go fairly cheap but I think the quality is similar to the older Hohners- also Korean made in those days.

That reminds me, I've got a Cort Steinberger bass I should sell. Want to carry something bigger?

-Steve W.
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an4340
Posted 2007-05-16 7:41 AM (#100065 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar


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Haven't played the horner, but I've played the low end steinberger broom. I liked it.
In terms of small "full" sized fret boards you might also look at a chiquita.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2007-05-16 7:53 AM (#100066 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar



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Originally posted by FlySig:
It turns out that a firmer landing puts less wear on the tires than a sweet gentle landing. With cost control being what it is these days, I do my best to make every landing a money saving landing! Yup, that's me, the company man, pounding on the landings to save the company money.

Nobody said anything about having to use the airplane again, just don't wear out the tires.


I think I've flown on one or two of your flights. :D
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Beal
Posted 2007-05-16 9:32 AM (#100067 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar



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Hell with the plane, save the tired, man that is soooo corporate. F#ckin Bean counters!

As I recall tires only last 50-75 landings anyway.

What are you driving these days?
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2007-05-16 10:22 AM (#100068 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar



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The Hohner is good. The licensed bridge parts are not of as good a quality as Steinberger's own (or at least that was true in the Pre-Gibson days), but hold up okay if not abused. It's a fun guitar to play. I may still have a gig bag from one.
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Nils
Posted 2007-05-16 10:41 AM (#100069 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar


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Originally posted by FlySig:
Originally posted by cwk2:

A good landing they all walk away from, a great landing and the plane is reusable too.
It turns out that a firmer landing puts less wear on the tires than a sweet gentle landing. With cost control being what it is these days, I do my best to make every landing a money saving landing! Yup, that's me, the company man, pounding on the landings to save the company money.

Nobody said anything about having to use the airplane again, just don't wear out the tires.
I've never figured out why commercial airliners (as well as military aircraft) aren't equipped with hydraulic motors to spool the wheels & tires up to nearly match the groundspeed of the aircraft prior to touchdown & then let them free-wheel at landing. They could also be re-engaged once the aircraft is on the ground for extra braking as well. It should be simple to do with the onboard computers used these days. The hydraulic system is already on board & hydraulic motors are relatively inexpensive, light & long lived. I'm sure that would increase tire life tremendously. Maybe they already have 'em, I dunno.
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Beal
Posted 2007-05-16 1:20 PM (#100070 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar



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weight
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FlySig
Posted 2007-05-16 1:56 PM (#100071 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar



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Originally posted by Nils:
I've never figured out why commercial airliners (as well as military aircraft) aren't equipped with hydraulic motors to spool the wheels & tires up to nearly match the groundspeed of the aircraft prior to touchdown & then let them free-wheel at landing.[/QB]
That would pose two problems. First, the weight as cwk2 mentioned. The fuel penalty is something like 2% per hour. So if we carried an extra 50 pounds of spin-up motors, we would burn an extra pound of fuel per hour. Over the span of a year it would work out to be several thousand pounds of fuel, which would be hundreds of dollars. Additionally, the payload of the aircraft would be reduced, meaning we would have to bump passengers or bags more often.

The second problem is the redundancy of the anti-skid braking system. The anti-skid system disables the brakes during the arrival so that there is no brake pressure at all when we touch down. This prevents landing with locked wheels which would cause a blowout and possibly veering off the runway at high speed. All systems must be fail-safe, so the anti-skid uses two inputs - wheel speed and weight-on-wheels. The brakes are disabled until the first of a)wheels spin up to 50 knots speed, or b) two seconds after weight-on-wheels. Thus if we lose a wheel sensor or a WOW sensor, the backup will still enable the brakes.

I've thought that little wind buckets molded into the wheels or even the tires could help spin up the tires, thus reducing wear. But I don't know how to get around the fail-safe for the braking system.

CW, I currently fly the Canadair CRJ. We have three variants, the 50 seat, 70 seat, and 90 seat. They are a common type rating so I get to fly all of them.
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Nils
Posted 2007-05-16 3:29 PM (#100072 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar


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Well that just shows ta go ya what I know about it.

Hmmm, if 50 pounds costs that much extra to haul around maybe there should be a discount for anybody under 175 pounds & a surcharge for being a lardass.
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BalladeerFun
Posted 2007-05-16 4:28 PM (#100073 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar


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Hey Fly... I've got an Alvarez MSD1 that I don't play. Unlike any I've seen, it's got a factory installed pickup and sounds good plugged in. It's got an onboard tuner and equalizer. I've never even seen the ones with the pickup advertised. I've got the original travel gigbag.

It had a small crack in the top from bridge to the lower bout that was professionally repaired before I got it and you can't tell unless you look for it. It's got "used" stamped on back of headstock.

I don't need a plugable guitar when I travel so I have a small Martin that is my travel guitar. If you're interested let me know and I can send you some pictures. Here's the link to the Alvarez website: http://www.alvarezgtr.com/prod_page.html?SeriesID=1&ItemID=44
also reviews on Musiciansfriend:
http://www.alvarezgtr.com/prod_page.html?SeriesID=1&ItemID=44
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FlySig
Posted 2007-05-16 8:04 PM (#100074 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar



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Balladeer, thanks but I really want a solidbody to prevent too much damage. This guitar will be stowed behind my seat, so it has to take the occasional bashing.
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foyle
Posted 2007-05-19 10:28 AM (#100075 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar


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In addition to my G3T, I have a B2B, thats the Bass version. I bought it in the 80's and carried it around for most of that decade, playing with a blues rock band in Manhattan. I carried it on my back on the subway (some people thought it was a gun), it rode in several trunks and it moved with me from several apartments and two houses. Although the active pickups dont turn on for some reason, it still works fine and stays in tune.

I suspect the G3T is just as durable.
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FlySig
Posted 2007-05-19 5:48 PM (#100076 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar



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Originally posted by foyle:
I carried it on my back on the subway (some people thought it was a gun)
And the punks with screwdrivers probably left you alone, especially after you told them your name was Bernie.
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beatlejuice53
Posted 2007-05-21 7:44 PM (#100077 - in reply to #100058)
Subject: Re: Hohner G3T headless guitar


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FlySig,
Have you looked at musicyo.com? The new Spirit (korean) Steinbergers go for around $300. They have sales every once in a while and they are even a little cheaper.
Bill
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